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	<title>Comments on: Repost: Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes or, who guards the guardians?</title>
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		<title>By: skepticlawyer</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2006/10/sed-quis-custodiet-ipsos-custodes-or-who-guards-the-guardians/comment-page-1/#comment-24</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 02:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Tiley's followup to this piece is &lt;a href="http://barista.media2.org/?p=2704" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Tiley&#8217;s followup to this piece is <a href="http://barista.media2.org/?p=2704" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: FDB</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2006/10/sed-quis-custodiet-ipsos-custodes-or-who-guards-the-guardians/comment-page-1/#comment-23</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 02:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd just like to say that a post which mentions Stuart Littlemore (we hardly knew ye) AND Venn diagrams has my unqualified attention.

I think I prefer Disco Stu's proposal to PB's, chiefly because I see this as a major avenue for pro bono legal work on behalf of the Paxtons of the world.

Re: Beattie's idea - I disagree that this sort of admin is only necessary "because of the expansion of government into so many aspects of our lives". Rather it is because of the role of media in determining attitudes, perceptions and thus preferences and choices. This is a really important role; whether government involves itself deliberately or not, media and government are now inseparable. Not one and the same, thank Venn, but you can't have one without the other.

So naturally we need to ensure that the relationship is NOT one way - we can't afford to have media organisations being more or less capable of deciding elections (or policy) and have the Govt toothless to respond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d just like to say that a post which mentions Stuart Littlemore (we hardly knew ye) AND Venn diagrams has my unqualified attention.</p>
<p>I think I prefer Disco Stu&#8217;s proposal to PB&#8217;s, chiefly because I see this as a major avenue for pro bono legal work on behalf of the Paxtons of the world.</p>
<p>Re: Beattie&#8217;s idea - I disagree that this sort of admin is only necessary &#8220;because of the expansion of government into so many aspects of our lives&#8221;. Rather it is because of the role of media in determining attitudes, perceptions and thus preferences and choices. This is a really important role; whether government involves itself deliberately or not, media and government are now inseparable. Not one and the same, thank Venn, but you can&#8217;t have one without the other.</p>
<p>So naturally we need to ensure that the relationship is NOT one way - we can&#8217;t afford to have media organisations being more or less capable of deciding elections (or policy) and have the Govt toothless to respond.</p>
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		<title>By: skepticlawyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>skepticlawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 02:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... And if David Tiley drops by, I'd love him to repost his comment on this piece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; And if David Tiley drops by, I&#8217;d love him to repost his comment on this piece.</p>
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