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	<title>Comments on: At last, a really good reason to bash the ABC!</title>
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		<title>By: terjepetersen</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2006/11/at-last-a-really-good-reason-to-bash-the-abc/#comment-1338</link>
		<dc:creator>terjepetersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 14:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a bad nightmare, when I was a kid, of a scary car crash. I woke up my mum and dad and told them about it. The next morning as mum drove us to school we had a head on collision.

My sister got up one morning and insisted (to my mum) that she was going to break her leg that day. Latter while riding her horse a friends horse kicked her in the leg and snapped the bone.

True stories. Proving of course that I am from a family of psychics.

I predict that the ABC will not be privatised before the next election.

:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a bad nightmare, when I was a kid, of a scary car crash. I woke up my mum and dad and told them about it. The next morning as mum drove us to school we had a head on collision.</p>
<p>My sister got up one morning and insisted (to my mum) that she was going to break her leg that day. Latter while riding her horse a friends horse kicked her in the leg and snapped the bone.</p>
<p>True stories. Proving of course that I am from a family of psychics.</p>
<p>I predict that the ABC will not be privatised before the next election.<br />
 <img src='http://skepticlawyer.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: skepticlawyer</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2006/11/at-last-a-really-good-reason-to-bash-the-abc/#comment-1337</link>
		<dc:creator>skepticlawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For some reason I found this whole episode really annoying. Even worse, the show was lame as well. &lt;i&gt;Sensing Murder&lt;/i&gt; was better, which isn't saying much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some reason I found this whole episode really annoying. Even worse, the show was lame as well. <i>Sensing Murder</i> was better, which isn&#8217;t saying much.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Edney</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2006/11/at-last-a-really-good-reason-to-bash-the-abc/#comment-1336</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Edney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 11:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FDB,

You are not obliged to pay for commercial television. ie you can just not watch it and not waste anytime watching adds. While I'll be appalled when channel 10 runs psychic investigators, I don't have to pay for it. I do with the ABC, and I threfore expect them not to be pushing bullshit.

Overall I'm quite happy paying for the ABC in my taxes. I think they produce a number of shows that are beneficial and wouldn't otherwise be support. They are producing public goods increasing knowledge of science etc with catalyst. They are taking away these goods by running quackery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FDB,</p>
<p>You are not obliged to pay for commercial television. ie you can just not watch it and not waste anytime watching adds. While I&#8217;ll be appalled when channel 10 runs psychic investigators, I don&#8217;t have to pay for it. I do with the ABC, and I threfore expect them not to be pushing bullshit.</p>
<p>Overall I&#8217;m quite happy paying for the ABC in my taxes. I think they produce a number of shows that are beneficial and wouldn&#8217;t otherwise be support. They are producing public goods increasing knowledge of science etc with catalyst. They are taking away these goods by running quackery.</p>
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		<title>By: skepticlawyer</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2006/11/at-last-a-really-good-reason-to-bash-the-abc/#comment-1335</link>
		<dc:creator>skepticlawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 11:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's what tivos are for... and mute buttons between overs and during drinks, FDB :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what tivos are for&#8230; and mute buttons between overs and during drinks, FDB <img src='http://skepticlawyer.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: FDB</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2006/11/at-last-a-really-good-reason-to-bash-the-abc/#comment-1334</link>
		<dc:creator>FDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 11:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, you pay for them by:

a) wasting 1/6 of your viewing time looking at ads

and b) having your information distorted according to commercial interests (see a)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, you pay for them by:</p>
<p>a) wasting 1/6 of your viewing time looking at ads</p>
<p>and b) having your information distorted according to commercial interests (see a)</p>
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		<title>By: skepticlawyer</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2006/11/at-last-a-really-good-reason-to-bash-the-abc/#comment-1333</link>
		<dc:creator>skepticlawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 11:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, but I don't pay for them in my taxes, FDB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but I don&#8217;t pay for them in my taxes, FDB.</p>
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		<title>By: FDB</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2006/11/at-last-a-really-good-reason-to-bash-the-abc/#comment-1332</link>
		<dc:creator>FDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 11:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a self-professed enthusiast for the nobility of the hunt, you seem very keen on shooting fish in a barrel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a self-professed enthusiast for the nobility of the hunt, you seem very keen on shooting fish in a barrel.</p>
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		<title>By: FDB</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2006/11/at-last-a-really-good-reason-to-bash-the-abc/#comment-1331</link>
		<dc:creator>FDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 11:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, so why the post?

You've got DAILY ammunition against the commercial outlets on all the above criteria.

Don't be evasive. This was a deliberate crusade on the basis of your pre-exisisting ideological opposition to the ABC, in celebration of finally having a genuine complaint that none of the ABC's defenders would go in to bat for.

In other words, a cheap shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, so why the post?</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve got DAILY ammunition against the commercial outlets on all the above criteria.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be evasive. This was a deliberate crusade on the basis of your pre-exisisting ideological opposition to the ABC, in celebration of finally having a genuine complaint that none of the ABC&#8217;s defenders would go in to bat for.</p>
<p>In other words, a cheap shot.</p>
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		<title>By: skepticlawyer</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2006/11/at-last-a-really-good-reason-to-bash-the-abc/#comment-1330</link>
		<dc:creator>skepticlawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 11:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the ABC is biased, FDB, but I don't particularly care. My personal experiences with the media have made me almost completely cynical about everything they report (ABC and commercial both).

Lack of accuracy - and in my experience, the ABC was just as bad as the commercials in this respect, along with lack of accountability - means I think all media is crap. I've blogged on the accountability issues &lt;a href="http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=1945" rel="nofollow"&gt;elsewhere&lt;/a&gt; - I think there should be some comeback on the press in a legal sense when they fuck up so badly people are damaged - either in a civil or criminal sense. Otherwise, I don't care. The media are stuffed, and the sooner their advertising revenue goes down the toilet because they can't make the online thing work for them, the better.

That said, as an amateur science buff, I really dislike deliberate horseshit. The stuff the media did about me amounted to the media class believing its own bullshit. &lt;i&gt;Psychic Investigators&lt;/i&gt; involves a highly deliberate untruth. There is a difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the ABC is biased, FDB, but I don&#8217;t particularly care. My personal experiences with the media have made me almost completely cynical about everything they report (ABC and commercial both).</p>
<p>Lack of accuracy - and in my experience, the ABC was just as bad as the commercials in this respect, along with lack of accountability - means I think all media is crap. I&#8217;ve blogged on the accountability issues <a href="http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=1945" rel="nofollow">elsewhere</a> - I think there should be some comeback on the press in a legal sense when they fuck up so badly people are damaged - either in a civil or criminal sense. Otherwise, I don&#8217;t care. The media are stuffed, and the sooner their advertising revenue goes down the toilet because they can&#8217;t make the online thing work for them, the better.</p>
<p>That said, as an amateur science buff, I really dislike deliberate horseshit. The stuff the media did about me amounted to the media class believing its own bullshit. <i>Psychic Investigators</i> involves a highly deliberate untruth. There is a difference.</p>
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		<title>By: FDB</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2006/11/at-last-a-really-good-reason-to-bash-the-abc/#comment-1329</link>
		<dc:creator>FDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 11:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now SL.

What is your explanation of the post title. See #45.

Is this an admission that only accusations of poor quality programming are legitimate criticisms of the ABC?

If so, why "at last"? Why have you been hanging out for an excuse to 'bash' them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now SL.</p>
<p>What is your explanation of the post title. See #45.</p>
<p>Is this an admission that only accusations of poor quality programming are legitimate criticisms of the ABC?</p>
<p>If so, why &#8220;at last&#8221;? Why have you been hanging out for an excuse to &#8216;bash&#8217; them?</p>
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