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		<title>By: Limits on executive power &#171; The Legal Soapbox</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2007/07/the-thought-police-are-listening/#comment-11211</link>
		<dc:creator>Limits on executive power &#171; The Legal Soapbox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] facts of the Haneef case are well known (and discussed in a previous post here). Dr Haneef, a doctor working in a Gold Coast hospital, apparently loaned his SIM card to his [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] facts of the Haneef case are well known (and discussed in a previous post here). Dr Haneef, a doctor working in a Gold Coast hospital, apparently loaned his SIM card to his [...]</p>
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		<title>By: who are the ones that we kept in charge? killers, thieves and lawyers at a roll of the dice</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2007/07/the-thought-police-are-listening/#comment-11209</link>
		<dc:creator>who are the ones that we kept in charge? killers, thieves and lawyers at a roll of the dice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 05:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of discussion of the actual (and reprehensible) criminal law under which Haneef has been charged over at the Legal Soapbox.    Filed under Uncategorized.&#160;&#160;&#124;      var blogTool = "WordPress"; var blogURL = [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of discussion of the actual (and reprehensible) criminal law under which Haneef has been charged over at the Legal Soapbox.    Filed under Uncategorized.&nbsp;&nbsp;|      var blogTool = &#8220;WordPress&#8221;; var blogURL = [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Club Troppo &#187; Missing Link - Dr Haneef Edition</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2007/07/the-thought-police-are-listening/#comment-11199</link>
		<dc:creator>Club Troppo &#187; Missing Link - Dr Haneef Edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] considers the &#8216;evidence&#8217; against Dr Haneef. Marcellous (here and here) and Legal Eagle (here) look at some of the legal aspects of the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] considers the &#8216;evidence&#8217; against Dr Haneef. Marcellous (here and here) and Legal Eagle (here) look at some of the legal aspects of the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Balneus Haneef sketches : Herald-Sun racial prejudice? &#171;</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2007/07/the-thought-police-are-listening/#comment-11210</link>
		<dc:creator>Balneus Haneef sketches : Herald-Sun racial prejudice? &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 02:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on the threat of thoughtcrime and the dropping of &#34;intent&#34; as necessary for criminality. &#34;The Thought Police Are Listening&#34; at LegalSoapbox or two articles by Marcellous (&#34;Trumped-Up Terrorism Charge&#34; and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on the threat of thoughtcrime and the dropping of &quot;intent&quot; as necessary for criminality. &quot;The Thought Police Are Listening&quot; at LegalSoapbox or two articles by Marcellous (&quot;Trumped-Up Terrorism Charge&quot; and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Legal Eagle</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2007/07/the-thought-police-are-listening/#comment-11208</link>
		<dc:creator>Legal Eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 23:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MCB Esq - thank you, that was indeed of interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MCB Esq - thank you, that was indeed of interest.</p>
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		<title>By: Legal Eagle</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2007/07/the-thought-police-are-listening/#comment-11207</link>
		<dc:creator>Legal Eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 23:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting point about failing to post bail. I'd rather be in gaol than in immigration detention, I think. There's more outside scrutiny, and more procedures that have to be followed. Not to mention the right to legal advice too.

I worry that this kind of behaviour by the government will ironically inflame extremists. They will then think they have the right to behave badly because our government has treated Dr Haneef badly. Well, they think they have the right to behave badly anyway, but they love having some kind of warped moral justification for their actions by pointing out ways the West has behaved badly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting point about failing to post bail. I&#8217;d rather be in gaol than in immigration detention, I think. There&#8217;s more outside scrutiny, and more procedures that have to be followed. Not to mention the right to legal advice too.</p>
<p>I worry that this kind of behaviour by the government will ironically inflame extremists. They will then think they have the right to behave badly because our government has treated Dr Haneef badly. Well, they think they have the right to behave badly anyway, but they love having some kind of warped moral justification for their actions by pointing out ways the West has behaved badly.</p>
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		<title>By: Mild Colonial Boy, Esq.</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2007/07/the-thought-police-are-listening/#comment-11206</link>
		<dc:creator>Mild Colonial Boy, Esq.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 23:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post may prove of interest - &lt;a href="http://ukcommentators.blogspot.com/2007/07/as-long-as-it-takes.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Laban Tall&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post may prove of interest - <a href="http://ukcommentators.blogspot.com/2007/07/as-long-as-it-takes.html" rel="nofollow">Laban Tall</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: pete m</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2007/07/the-thought-police-are-listening/#comment-11205</link>
		<dc:creator>pete m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 23:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>patrick b - where did I debate the law?  I'm commenting on this particular fellow and his charges, and that we do not know the full story, which was part of LE's comment.  You chose to debate the law, and that is fine - in fact I agree the shift of burden in a criminal matter is grossly unfair and ought to be repealed.  The people protesting are largely ignorant of the points you make, and are just going by the media treatment of the evidence released so far.

democracy - we all get an equal say, but then you seem to only want certain people to be able to vote - hypocrit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>patrick b - where did I debate the law?  I&#8217;m commenting on this particular fellow and his charges, and that we do not know the full story, which was part of LE&#8217;s comment.  You chose to debate the law, and that is fine - in fact I agree the shift of burden in a criminal matter is grossly unfair and ought to be repealed.  The people protesting are largely ignorant of the points you make, and are just going by the media treatment of the evidence released so far.</p>
<p>democracy - we all get an equal say, but then you seem to only want certain people to be able to vote - hypocrit.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Haneef: The Story So Far</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2007/07/the-thought-police-are-listening/#comment-11204</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Haneef: The Story So Far</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 16:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Larvatus Prodeo, Senator Andrew Bartlett, The Legal Soapbox, and Ambit Gambit all have interesting thoughts on the case and this most recent development. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Larvatus Prodeo, Senator Andrew Bartlett, The Legal Soapbox, and Ambit Gambit all have interesting thoughts on the case and this most recent development. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Larvatus Prodeo</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2007/07/the-thought-police-are-listening/#comment-11203</link>
		<dc:creator>Larvatus Prodeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Mohamed Haneef and protecting liberal democracy in the age of terror&lt;/strong&gt;

Balancing civil liberties with the need to have an effective counterterrorism campaign has long been a difficult issue for liberal democracies. The arrest, detention, release and now detention of suspect Mohamed Haneef has raised important questions ab...</description>
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<p>Balancing civil liberties with the need to have an effective counterterrorism campaign has long been a difficult issue for liberal democracies. The arrest, detention, release and now detention of suspect Mohamed Haneef has raised important questions ab&#8230;</p>
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