Comments on: Where Are They Now? http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2007/07/where-are-they-now/ Two lawyers on law, legislation and liberty. And other stuff. Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:06:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: skepticlawyer http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2007/07/where-are-they-now/#comment-7638 skepticlawyer Thu, 12 Jul 2007 06:34:44 +0000 http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=2993#comment-7638 Andrew, did I run over your cat or something? You're an excellent blogger and a thoughtful commenter around Ozblogistan - I always try to include your latest piece in Missing Link because I know it'll be good. But for some reason I irritate you - even though we've never met, and probably aren't likely to. What is it? Andrew, did I run over your cat or something?

You’re an excellent blogger and a thoughtful commenter around Ozblogistan - I always try to include your latest piece in Missing Link because I know it’ll be good. But for some reason I irritate you - even though we’ve never met, and probably aren’t likely to.

What is it?

]]> By: Andrew Elder http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2007/07/where-are-they-now/#comment-7637 Andrew Elder Thu, 12 Jul 2007 06:28:41 +0000 http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=2993#comment-7637 So you've learned how to accept a duchessing and duck a challenge Helen - you have learned a lot from the MSM :p So you’ve learned how to accept a duchessing and duck a challenge Helen - you have learned a lot from the MSM :p

]]> By: skepticlawyer http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2007/07/where-are-they-now/#comment-7636 skepticlawyer Thu, 12 Jul 2007 02:47:25 +0000 http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=2993#comment-7636 Great comment as always, Andy ;) Great comment as always, Andy ;)

]]> By: Andrew Elder http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2007/07/where-are-they-now/#comment-7635 Andrew Elder Thu, 12 Jul 2007 01:24:40 +0000 http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=2993#comment-7635 I thought Melissa Doyle looked appalled at your very existance. When you batted away the Robert Manne thing you got away with murder (figuratively, not literally, which is where I disagree with Manne's hype). They had to ask you the soft-focus stuff because you've already been done on the hard stuff. When you say things like "you have to sit like a graven image", you give the game away. Have you gotten to the point where you realise that Dame Leonie and her MFP crew did you no favours? I thought Melissa Doyle looked appalled at your very existance. When you batted away the Robert Manne thing you got away with murder (figuratively, not literally, which is where I disagree with Manne’s hype). They had to ask you the soft-focus stuff because you’ve already been done on the hard stuff. When you say things like “you have to sit like a graven image”, you give the game away.

Have you gotten to the point where you realise that Dame Leonie and her MFP crew did you no favours?

]]> By: HeathG http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2007/07/where-are-they-now/#comment-7634 HeathG Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:04:11 +0000 http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=2993#comment-7634 Stephen {29} On this last point - it's interesting to note how late to the game the TV stations here where when it came to taking the Internet and digital media seriously. PBL hopped into bed with MSN to give us NineMSN - one of the most trafficed sites in Australia, though I'm willing to bet a fairly hefty part of that is a result of the exit page for Hotmail being the NIneMSN home page. The TV side of the business has only really gotten it's Internet strategy up and running in the last year or so. Ch10 - this is a bit of a surprise. Their demographic would surely have been the most eager to adopt an online offering.. but again, only in the last 6-9 months have their gotten serious about online. Ch7 - with MSN alreayd married and Google playing the happy batchelor/batchelorette the world over, Ch7 hitched up with Yahoo to form Yahoo7... which hasn't been a complete faiulure IMHO. Ch7 have also made some smart investments of late - in particualr buying into Engin , which they will be leveraging next year to bring TiVO to the Aus market. Stephen {29}

On this last point - it’s interesting to note how late to the game the TV stations here where when it came to taking the Internet and digital media seriously.

PBL hopped into bed with MSN to give us NineMSN - one of the most trafficed sites in Australia, though I’m willing to bet a fairly hefty part of that is a result of the exit page for Hotmail being the NIneMSN home page. The TV side of the business has only really gotten it’s Internet strategy up and running in the last year or so.

Ch10 - this is a bit of a surprise. Their demographic would surely have been the most eager to adopt an online offering.. but again, only in the last 6-9 months have their gotten serious about online.

Ch7 - with MSN alreayd married and Google playing the happy batchelor/batchelorette the world over, Ch7 hitched up with Yahoo to form Yahoo7… which hasn’t been a complete faiulure IMHO. Ch7 have also made some smart investments of late - in particualr buying into Engin , which they will be leveraging next year to bring TiVO to the Aus market.

]]> By: Stephen Hill http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2007/07/where-are-they-now/#comment-7633 Stephen Hill Wed, 11 Jul 2007 07:05:43 +0000 http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=2993#comment-7633 I don't know that Channel 7 can be credited with too much knowledge of markets, they certainly benefit from the regulatory advantages of having the limitation of the licencing of a mere three free-to-air stations, which is hardly a competitive environment (particularly with the mismanagement at Nine assisting in Seven's rise). They've certainly also been helped by the incumbent government killing off of a possible fourth FTA station, and resisting narrowcasting for many years, and the anti-siphoning rules also provide the FTAs with a big advantage over their competitors. But even within this seemingly favourable environment free-to-air is losing considerable viewers to pay-TV, and is also losing some to other mediums (DVDS, computer games, internet). I think the test of how reactive FTA stations are to viewers needs will come in the next five-ten years, when Television on Demand and multi-channeling becomes more prevailent, when the internet transcends many of the boundaries imposed upon entrants into the media market. It will be an interesting time to see how the media landscape hopefully evolves. I don’t know that Channel 7 can be credited with too much knowledge of markets, they certainly benefit from the regulatory advantages of having the limitation of the licencing of a mere three free-to-air stations, which is hardly a competitive environment (particularly with the mismanagement at Nine assisting in Seven’s rise). They’ve certainly also been helped by the incumbent government killing off of a possible fourth FTA station, and resisting narrowcasting for many years, and the anti-siphoning rules also provide the FTAs with a big advantage over their competitors.

But even within this seemingly favourable environment free-to-air is losing considerable viewers to pay-TV, and is also losing some to other mediums (DVDS, computer games, internet). I think the test of how reactive FTA stations are to viewers needs will come in the next five-ten years, when Television on Demand and multi-channeling becomes more prevailent, when the internet transcends many of the boundaries imposed upon entrants into the media market. It will be an interesting time to see how the media landscape hopefully evolves.

]]> By: JC. http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2007/07/where-are-they-now/#comment-7632 JC. Wed, 11 Jul 2007 03:41:31 +0000 http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=2993#comment-7632 Niall To make a profit they have to have an audience. I'll edit your last sentence as it will make more sense. "I'll stick YOU with the ABC thanks all the same." Niall

To make a profit they have to have an audience.

I’ll edit your last sentence as it will make more sense.

“I’ll stick YOU with the ABC thanks all the same.”

]]> By: Niall http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2007/07/where-are-they-now/#comment-7631 Niall Wed, 11 Jul 2007 03:33:39 +0000 http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=2993#comment-7631 Channel Seven not deluded about competition in the television media? According to <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/rn/mediareport/stories/2007/1964515.htm#transcript" rel="nofollow">Glen Dyer</a> they're more interested in profit than actually competing on a ratings basis. I'll stick to the ABC thanks all the same. Channel Seven not deluded about competition in the television media? According to Glen Dyer they’re more interested in profit than actually competing on a ratings basis. I’ll stick to the ABC thanks all the same.

]]> By: Graham Bell http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2007/07/where-are-they-now/#comment-7630 Graham Bell Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:42:04 +0000 http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=2993#comment-7630 SL [23]:<blockquote cite=""> "Dainty I ain’t." </blockquote> Why not? The Canadian dancer Margie Gillis would tower over you. Gracefulness and tallness are not mutually exclusive :-) Happy packing ..... SL [23]:
“Dainty I ain’t.”

Why not? The Canadian dancer Margie Gillis would tower over you. Gracefulness and tallness are not mutually exclusive :-) Happy packing …..

]]> By: skepticlawyer http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2007/07/where-are-they-now/#comment-7629 skepticlawyer Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:31:03 +0000 http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=2993#comment-7629 Phooey to you, Jacques ;) Phooey to you, Jacques ;)

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