Every now and again, something from your past pops up out of your breakfast cereal and gets you thinking.
Last night I was chilling out with a few cold ones when an email from a good mate in the Australian Skeptics landed in my in-tray. The mate wanted me to tell him my version of an interview I’d done on Late Night Live with Phillip Adams. He’d heard a recent LNL interview with Anna Broinowski, director of Forbidden Lies, a biopic of Norma Khouri.
BTW, for those interested in Norma rather than Phillip, I’ll direct you to two pieces by Darlene Taylor, one at her own blog and one at Larvatus Prodeo. I haven’t been able to see the film, but by all reports it’s excellent, and in any case I trust Darlene’s taste in movies. If she says it’s good, it’s likely to be.
During his intro, Adams claimed that ‘one of my most chilling experiences on this programme ever was a long interview I did with Helen Demidenko, which made my blood freeze’. My Skeptics mate - understandably - wanted to know what I’d said that’d scared Adams so badly.
There’s a small problem, though. I’ve never been on Late Night Live. I’ve never been interviewed by Phillip Adams. I’m not sure I’ve even met him. Of course, he may have been in the audience during a literary festival I attended, but I’ve got no way of knowing that for certain.
Anyways, I’m slightly flattered that people I’ve never met find me scary. Maybe this means I’m less likely to be a victim of road rage or assassination 
The interview with Broinowski is available for download here. Anna’s segment starts about halfway through after some especially dire filler music - only on Your ABC, of course, paid for with Your Taxes - but I’m editorializing…
I’ve emailed Media Watch, but since it lists to the left in the same way as the good ship Aunty, I don’t expect anything will come of it.
[Photoshoppery by Deus Ex Macintosh]
UPDATE: Tim Blair’s view is available here.
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“‘one of my most chilling experiences on this programme ever was a long interview with Helen Demidenko, which made my blood freeze. ”
I heard Adams say that LIVE!!!!
I heard Adams say that live late-one-night.
And I was fucking furious because I knew he was making a cheap shot and that basically he was LYING.
Imagine saying that about such a very young artist??????
That’s crazy-talk. I would have told you about it skeptic.
But I didn’t want you to be upset for even one minute by this sort of jerk-n-time.
And besides I thought you might question my motives.
What a completely fucked-up-thing for him to say.
How could a talented-young writer…. in her early-twenties….. almost never out of academia…..
…Frighten a wisened old interviewer who has, in his time, interviewed all sorts of AUTHENTIC psychopaths?
The whole fact that you were taking some sort of position on these matters suggested that mass-killings troubled you and that you WEREN’T nihilistic nor any sort of psychopath. Unlike these socialists like Adams who EVEN AFTER POL POT have a fascination with Chavez and spend their whole time glorifying past-marxists. So what’s happened is Adams has been witness to you coming over to the bright side of the road… to the libertarian side…. and he’s just whacking you one for no good reason.
It’s just that he never interviewed me at all, Graeme. That quote you heard is from the interview with Anna I’ve linked, so you must have been listening to the same show as my Skeptics mate. I’m not even angry, really, it’s just too funny to be really angry about. Perplexed more than anything, I suppose. There is the possibility that I was ‘noddied’, but that’s quite rare on radio, and far more common on TV - I know I’ve had that done to me quite a few times on telly.
But you see how what I used to say is true.
I used to always emphasise the basic lynch-mob-mentality of leftists.
I mean Adams said this Crapola like days either-side of you flying out of the country.
Like it could not have been but a matter of days either way…. And actually I think it was within a fortnight of you flying out. Like the monstrousness of it that he had this viciousness waiting and hiding all that time. They’ll never forgive you FOR PUTTING THE LIGHT ON THEIR OWN FAULTS sister.
And I’ll never forgive him.
There’s a nasty bruise on the shin of a very old man coming for that showing-of-the-witch-hunter’s teeth.
You cannot hide from your fate Adams.
But an apology might make it a lesser bruise.
A less painful bruise on the shin and one that didn’t last quite so long.
Helen
Even if you are not angry, I think that Adams’ remark justifies a formal complaint, which you can make at http://www.abc.net.au/contact/complaints.htm. Egregious remarks like this really need to be brought to the attention of the staff responsible for editorial standards in the ABC.
Okay Ron, will do. I’ve informed Media Watch, I’ll inform the official body as well. I probably should have done that first. Thanks for dropping by.
Unfortunately, the link that I gave for ABC complaints doesn’t work, because I put a full stop after ‘htm’. Try http://www.abc.net.au/contact/complaints.htm
That’s okay - figured it out. Unfortunately the interwebs don’t always reward correct punctuation!
But in both cases the complaints are to the A-bloody-BC.
There has to be another lever pulled that can put pressure both on Adams and the ABC if they don’t take this all seriously.
You have to talk to someone else other then these two or else tell me how to.
Otherwise it’s just the man looking after his own self.
Else. else. Else.
“There has to be another lever pulled that can put pressure both on Adams and the ABC…….OR ELSE they don’t take this all seriously.”
That’s what I meant to say.
Ron’s on the ABC board, Graeme. I think he gives a stuff about how the place is run. I’ve sent in a polite note and given them the link to this post. Can’t do any more than that. I know you’re angry, but it is pretty amusing, and it’s by no means the worst thing that some media lefty has ever done to me.
It’s not the least bit fucking-amusing.
On the cosmic level that is.
I suspected you MIGHT!!! find it amusing after some sort of initial-reaction time but that doesn’t make it amusing in any objective sense.
You laugh all you want skeptic. It ain’t necessarily in your hands anymore anyhow. Forgiveness and mirth belongeth to thee-sister. But VENGEANCE IS MINE sayeth-the-Lord-and-Mickey-Spillane.
It could get taken on board by people with far less of a healthy sense of humour as you possess.
You do realise that ideologically speaking I want them ALL fired. And it might be that we lose some very good people in the process….. and even some sort of genuine educative facility. But we have got to at least let these taxeaters know that this sort of nastiness and arrogance is not acceptable.
Not now.
Or ever.
Look Ron.
I know your heart is on the right side of this and good on you and all that.
But the fact of the matter is that THIS DEAL WENT DOWN WEEKS AGO.
And the ABC didn’t pick it up of its own accord????
I heard it live and didn’t want to tell skeptic. And someone else told her ……. I’m assuming some weeks after the fact.
What’s the deal that this sort of thing doesn’t get picked up internally prior to that?
People ought to have gotten shouted out for hours at a time before even ONE of skeptic’s friends and well-wishers told her about this hateful manifestation of the witch-hunt-without-end.
The great bulk of this sort of silliness never comes within my ken, Graeme. I found out about this example of the genre purely by accident - and that’s fine. The media is almost singularly not made accountable, certainly not in the same way as (non-media) corporations, politicians, judges or natural persons. That’s the nature of the beast, and we’ve discussed it at length before on Catallaxy.
It’s one of the reasons why journalists are held in such low regard by the general public, and also why their defence against the ‘monstrous regiment of bloggers’ is so hysterically panicky (something which has been documented very effectively over at LP).
It’s a nasty casual slur. He is such a wanker.
Oh yes, that too, Harry. Of course I’m reserving my legal rights, but at this stage I’ll just see what plays out. I’m sure Graeme will happily keep me informed of goings on in the land of Oz.
I’ll write in too, SL. I despise the fat lard and even more so now for saying that.
Maybe you ought to email him and ask him why he said that when he has never met you.
I bet the fat piece of shit wouldn’t reply, though.
Thanks, JC. Mind you, I scare Phillip Adams in absentia. Hear me roar, yadda yadda yadda…
My take on Phillip Adams is that he internalized the mindset of his stepfather who was a religious bigot of the darkest hue (at least according to Phillip, and it is his perception that is all important in this context). The young Phillip did not take on board the religion but later in life he has revealed some of the same bitter and paranoid attitudes, especially towards classical liberals who he has depicted as heartless monsters.
“I’m sure Graeme will happily keep me informed of goings on in the land of Oz.”
Not THAT happily skeptic.
I’d rather just know how to retaliate and keep you in ignorant student-girly-heaven.
You don’t need this stuff reaching out across the waves to spoil your good mood.
#18 Actually you will find Rafe he swapped the religious ideology of his yoof for a more scientific ideology……of course he disowns it too, now - well, sort of.
I gotta tell you Rafe, I think it is the burb he grew up in too.Snobby, waspy , middle class, small minded dickheads.
Nothing wrong with being waspy: it’s just one element of that group..
It was once a dry area, meaning you couldn’t buy booze there.
The people that live there are / used to be the worst Melnourne had to offer.
The first question they would ask you is what school you went to.
He’s a dickhead because he’s a product of that upbringing.
You saw a bit of it with the doctors wives syndrome. Those stepfords all came from that area of Melbourne
I just cannot make sense of it.
I told skeptic this when I met her in Sydney.
That the first time I saw her I was intensely jealous. Because I was trying to write a novel my own self.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Anyhow I was working hard on this novel and I could write. I could even write quite well.
But it was extraordinarily hard work and the outcome was about the quality of what you see in those cowboy-genre stories in the library.
Anyway one early-morning I was in the process-of NOT!!!! getting-it-done,
And here this young blonde Amazonian chick appears on the television AND SHE’S ALREADY DONE-IT.
Many years younger then me, and seemingly perfect in all other respects as well, and she’s DONE-it!!!……. and got the prize and gotten all the cash. And I can remember this intense burst of jealousy. I cannot think of any other time I’ve felt jealous of a WOMAN before or since. But that’s what we have to bear in mind here. This witch-hunt which still at this late date has not ended…. was carried out not on our 30-something skeptic.
It was carried-out on a very young woman.
It was carried-out on that same youthful Amazonian that slapped me in the face and told me I was a loser…. that fine morning while I was watching some breakfast-show.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
And so SURELY you have to think just what a bunch of crazies these people are?
Like some medieval village-folk gone totally-mad with pitch-forks and wooden-torches wanting to go out there and burn a virgin or two?
I know what these people are like……. and I saw it happen…….. but still I find it hard to believe.
Six foot blonde chick - I’d be scared too, in a good sort of way.
Awww, Sinkers and Graeme, that’s sweet
I can see how Adams will respond, “I didnt say that I conducted the interview, I just heard it…”
Adams is one who has never got over it, whatever it is. He now admits that his hatred of John Howard is without base and possibly pathological and is happy to carry on.
I agree rog. Adams has simply said that the long interview appeared on his program.
If you make too much noise about this, you could risk creating embarresment when he pulls out any old archive footage of a >2min segment with HD saying anything at all. There is no test for what Adam’s would consider ‘chilling’.
I’m search the ABC archives now for any references to program running sheets or promotions that would mention a significant HD interivew on his show.
-D
Its interesting, Adams is ‘chilled’ by Helen but not by Lenin, Stalin, Mao. This is instructive.
BTW, Sinc, I heard you on Aunty yesterday. You were being quite mischevious. Very good, anything to annoy those pompous windbags, particularly Sally.
thanks db. i’ll write a longer version of my thoughts of yesterdays aunty experience after breakfast and, most important, coffee.
Listen to the interview - the post quotes him directly. If he’s not referring to his own programme, it’s difficult to see what he is referring to.
I’ve just listened carefully to the podcast and the actual quote is:
“one of my most chilling experiences on this programme - ever - was a long interview I DID with Helen Demidenko, which made my blood freeze”.
Sorry Rog & Donatus, he’s making a direct claim of a personal interview. He’ll be ass-covering like nobody’s business but it’s a difficult one to wriggle out of.
Its interesting, Adams is ‘chilled’ by Helen but not by Lenin, Stalin, Mao. This is instructive.
Not entirely surprising, Dover. Sceptic scares the lefties so badly one compared her to Martin Bryant!
Okay, I’ve just listened to it again. DEM’s right. I’ll amend the post.
It is just a disgrace that this pompous uneducated ponce has so much media space. he is way past his prime and has absolutely nothing to contribute to 21st public debate. I will gladly serve him the hemlock.
Part of Adams schtick is to claim intimate acquaintance with various people of influence, so this (false) claim sounds like it was made to further his reputation in that area. I wouldn’t expect him to ever acknowledge that he made this slip up, though. I’ll be interested to see how this one turns out.
I will gladly serve him the hemlock.
No no no.
Old school styles of execution certainly. But in Phil’s case we need something a little less humane. The Assyrians used to flay their enemies alive and nasil them to the city walls. Something like that only much more painful.
Well it looks like Adams is confabulating, at the taxpayers expense.
What pisses me off is that he wont do it on commercial radio, I guess he doesnt like to be judged on performance. So why does the tapayer have to pick up his bill?
It is high time the ABC techie types informed Adams he is “speaking” into a microphone, not performing fellatio.
I think I’m going to have to do something about this. DEM made me listen to the whole thing in context, and it’s really quite disturbing.
I heard that as well, and was unimpressed by the degree to which Helen was scapegoated as a ‘fellow liar’, but then thrown back into the muck as being ‘not in the same league’ as the other impersonator.
Seemed a very chummy, convenient attack on someone who has paid for her sins and since then has performed admirably in other areas of public life (most notably this and other sites).
However, I think it sums up nicely why we have reason to hate the socialist mentality: its all about being with the ‘in crowd’ - whether as a member of the Stasi (i just watched ‘other peoples lives) or having a ‘holier than thou’ group self-congratulation session on publicly-funded media. Personal responsibility is subjugated by the need to adhere to the group.
I think it also raises the problem more generally with freedom of speech. Power cannot be divorced from this ‘right’, and those who do not hold positions of responsibility/power, or even worse (as in Helen’s case) disempowerment due to past wrongs, should not be as freely criticised as those who do hold powerful positions (whether formal or informal).
This is like kicking a man for a crime long since forgiven and when he is already on his knees, .
This is like kicking a man for a crime long since forgiven and when he is already on his knees …
Well it’s easier to kneecap your enemies from there.
I think Adams was going for the guts. You know the kind of sinking feeling one gets when given a verbal ‘low blow’. I winced when I heard it, and i’m not even involved.
Working on the legals now, Invig. Will see what falls out of the relevant law.
Can you remember when you flew out?
It must have been just days before.
Thats what bugs me about it. Like these guys are sitting on all this nastiness and they go at it suddenly once they know you are on the plane.
The programme aired on August 28, and I’d be surprised if it had anything to do with my movements. More likely it was to do with the release timetable for Anna’s film.
I’m not one to apologise for Adams but perhaps the poor old duffer had SL confused with Anu Singh.
Peter Garret should have tried to convert his fame to becoming a wedding singer. The guy is a toal fucking moron.
44. Yeah sure the program aired then.
But the idea that he was safe to put the rabbit-punch and make some JIVE up without fear of contradiction.
It is a case of Phantasms. Because if he isn’t totally bullshitting outright then had he actually got to talk to YOU as opposed to the hobgoblin he’s likely got running around in his little mind, then he would be relaxed and comfortable about things, rather then spooked.
Its very hard to figure out whether the dude is senile, or just plain wicked.
Mr Blair’s view is available here.
Ha Ha Ha.
Its time they put him out to pasture and gave me his job.
I’m not sure the country is ready for that Graeme … let alone the ABC.
That would be so funny, I’m sorry, it just would
But I’m qualified for it.
Actually I’ve listened to this guy maybe 100 times a year for 15 years. And I can do the warm Adams voice. All you do is speak quietly and close up, into a very powerful microphone. Think of the suspense that would create!!!!
You guys would be listening to this warm voice night after night expecting any minute that the situation might explode into shouting and violence.
Don’t poo poo the idea. With Adams clearly fallen away into premature dementia the ABC could use some sort of balancing act. I’d launch on the scene as a fully-formed broadcaster like ZEUS being birthed in adult form for out of a Titan’s forehead. It would be the right-wing-Phillip Adams called-forth and made-flesh by the years-ago request of our current Dear Leader.
Adrien, re #35, I think you’re on to something.
John Greenfield, re #37, you’re wrong. It is his own microphone and therefore can only be properly described as autofellatio.
Ah Helen, as much as I loathe Adams and his ilk, it would seem to me that the take-home message is one about the integrity of the truth and the victims of liars.
Perhaps Helen Dale did not get interviewed by Adams but rather one of your other numerous other identities? Maybe it was when you were in one of your borderline dissociative states?
Helen
You suffer from a personality disorder. You have since your adolescence. You always will. Its symptoms include an inability to tell fantasy from reality, outside from inside. After the Hand that singed the paper debacle, you went quiet for a few years. The blog revolution allowed you to connect with fellow neurotics less single-minded than you - people with the remnants of a life, but no more, and access to a ‘mass’ medis. You’re a proven serial plagiarist and fabulist, and you will never achieve any sort of credibility as long as you refer back to these matters. Keep your head down, do your BCL, and concentrate on being Helen Dale - and never forget that all the enthusiasms that stirke you simply come from a place of derangement within your soul - and that all the people that encourage you on this site are even more psychologically fractured than you - which let’s face it, is saying something.
Good luck.
SS
Simon Smith.
Too gutless to show up under your own name Simon.
Are you famous Simon Smith?
Do we know you Simon Smith?
He must be a real Phillip Adams devotee. You can almost hear old Phil saying that spiel on the radioshow settling some old score or other.
But surely this “Simon Smith” would be throwing the “fabulist” accusation out at Adams if he were fair dinkum. Since Adams has been busted talking about a long interview he never made and quoting from an interview in which those quotes never appeared.
Leftist-projection we wonder?
“The blog revolution allowed you to connect with fellow neurotics less single-minded than you - people with the remnants of a life, but no more, and access to a ‘mass’ medis. ”
Sounds like some arrogant bigshot to me. Some smug old taxeater no doubt.
Time to yell “Gangland’ and get this jerk thrown out also.
Lets track down this fellows computer number. It will be some well-known worthy in any case.
Simon Smith. Tell us about your background. You some bigshot or other? You on the taxpayers dole?
It will be someone who doesn’t deserve to be in the position he’s in.
Someone who identifies with Adams on that score.
Simon Smith.
Do you have a beard?
Where have you gone Simon Smith?
Why the monologue and no dialogue?
Who could you be Simon Smith?
An old rabbit-puncher from way back no doubt Simon Smith!
Too gutless to hang around after the quick rabbit-punch hey Simon Smith!
Well there you are. The leftist lynch-mob mentality never sleeps.
This is some old Castro-wannabe coming on with the lash out of pure nihilism.
We won’t see this gutless wonder back here anytime soon.
But it sure would be good enough to know who the facist was.
Helen,
For what its worth, and I don’t know you personally, but I would say two things;
From my observations, you have been as sane and rational as anyone on the blogosphere. Perhaps there is some truth to Simon Smith’s observations, but regardless, you have not behaved as a ‘fabulist’
Next, and this was always my opinion, legal action should not be sought (or even mentioned) until Adams has a chance to respond. It may have been a simple error, in fact or judgement, and the man deserves the opportunity to right a wrong.
Also, it might create more waves than what its worth for the blogosphere in general. But, if they want a fight, we can give it to them.
Invig if you don’t know about it all don’t be constantly rehashing these accusations either implicitly or otherwise.
Simon Smith;
That sure is a real name.
Listen dickhead pay ettention to the thread. Fatso made a dishonest comment. he needs to take it back or live with the cosnsequences. Now fuck off.
The blog revolution allowed you to connect with fellow neurotics less single-minded than you - people with the remnants of a life, but no more, and access to a ‘mass’ media.
True, I guess. But how many people are lucky enough to have the ‘life’ you speak of, Simon? In your observation? And what does it consist of? Going to dinner parties? Having children? What?
And what have these people with ‘a life’ done for the rest of us without one? For we are helping ourselves in this ‘mass media’ you so offhandedly deride. So while you went to protest during your university days, we worked to keep ourselves rational and happy. Now we are doing much, much more than your fucking protests could have ever hoped to. So, fuck you Simon and the arrogance you rode in on.
Keep your head down, do your BCL, and concentrate on being Helen Dale - and never forget that all the enthusiasms that stirke you simply come from a place of derangement within your soul
Fuck him Helen. Trust yourself, trust your soul, and stay with us. You are loved and respected here. This guy sounds like my father, and if had of listened to him Christ knows where I’d be now. None too happy I can tell you. Stuck in a crap relationship doing a job I hate. Suppressing dreams of what might have been…
The blog revolution allowed you to connect with fellow neurotics less single-minded than you - people with the remnants of a life, but no more, and access to a ‘mass’ media.
True, I guess. But how many people are lucky enough to have the ‘life’ you speak of, Simon? In your observation? And what does it consist of? Going to dinner parties? Having children? What?
And what have these people with ‘a life’ done for the rest of us without one? For we are helping ourselves in this ‘mass media’ you so offhandedly deride. So while you went to protest during your university days, we worked to keep ourselves rational and happy. Now we are doing much, much more than your fucking protests could have ever hoped to. So, fuck you Simon and the arrogance you rode in on.
Keep your head down, do your BCL, and concentrate on being Helen Dale - and never forget that all the enthusiasms that stirke you simply come from a place of derangement within your soul
Fuck him Helen. Trust yourself, trust your soul, and stay with us. You are loved and respected here. This guy sounds like my father, and if had of listened to him Christ knows where I’d be now. None too happy I can tell you. Stuck in a crap relationship doing a job I hate. Suppressing dreams of what might have been…
GMB,
Yeah I meant Simon’s general comments on the blogosphere, not the ones about Helen (which as you say I know nothing about) - my bad.
“True, I guess.”
What is this Invig.
You some sort of double-agent?
You are making a great many accusations here fella.
Well, GMB, its something i’ve thought for a while. Who would spend hours blogging when they had other things to do? Perhaps I am wrong in this but it resonated with me.
Regardless, it doesn’t mean the time is wasted or not valuable. Which is why I make the point about protests. Blogging helps your own thinking and general development, and (hopefully) sharing them with the world helps it as well.
The fact it doesn’t earn a wage or lead to ‘normal’ interaction with others is kind of beside the point if that is not your intention.
Well I can only speak for myself.
The chattering classes are screwing everything up and I’m trying to mitigate that.
I’ll speak for myself and you speak for yourself jerk. Stop making implicit accusations all over the place.
Fucking hell.
The last reason I’d do it would be for the social interaction.
I mean the left is SERIOUSLY screwing things up.
I don’t mean that in a small way. I mean that in a very big way.
GMB,
You speak for who you want.
I WILL!!!!
But if you are going to be making all sorts of accusations you ought to shut the fuck up.
I have to say that Simon makes a lot of sense. Given the dialogue here, Helen would once again seem to be a lightening rod for her personality disordered fellow travellers. Angry misanthropists unite!!!
Captain.
Clearly you are some sort of sick pervert.
Yea, of course Simon makes a lot of sense to a stunted personality like you who seems to think that Fatoso lies ought to be glossed over while focusing on Helen.
Christ, you lefties are wankers. Just pure unadultered wanking machines.
I think we ought have the peadophile captain arrested before another child is damaged.
Angry misanthropists unite!!!
Yeha I tried that. I was gonna found a politial party called the angry misanthropists. I sent out the invitations and hundreds of anrgy misanthropists showed up. But the meeting died after a few minutes. Everyone hated each other.
Anyone know who this Simon Smith pervert is?
Man what a sick sick bastard.
You think he owns a hobby farm?
Wht a hobby farm, bird?
Adams owns a Hobby farm. I thought people might catch the reference.
I’m a bit of an LNL listener when it comes down to it.
“I’ve emailed Media Watch, but since it lists to the left in the same way as the good ship Aunty, I don’t expect anything will come of it.”
Good work Demidenko! So have I.
Really, your threats of legal action against LP over a couple of fairly mild comments on your relationship with MSM are, in my honestly held view, quite pathetic.
Come again? Are you on drugs, Christine Keeler? I thought Helen was referring to reserving possible legal action against Fatty Adams and was citing comments on LP about MSM vs bloggers *favourably.*
Ignore Christine, Jason. She has been been stupid since she was born.
Well who TF would know Jason, as I have no knowledge of the nature of the legal threats (unlike you, apparently), other than what’s been posted on LP.
But, if your account re action against Adams is accurate, it does seem passing strange to issue threats about allegedly defamatory comments that the potential litigant is posting far and wide. What, to defame herself?
Christine:
this is what you said in the first comment you made.
“…..Really, your threats of legal action against LP ”
Then jason replies with this comment:
“….was citing comments on LP about MSM vs bloggers *favourably.*
And then you reply wih this comment:
“Well who TF would know Jason, as I have no knowledge of the nature of the legal threats (unlike you, apparently), other than what’s been posted on LP. ”
How many stupid pills do you take each day?
This is bizarre.
“Well who TF would know Jason, as I have no knowledge of the nature of the legal threats (unlike you, apparently), other than what’s been posted on LP. ”
Well get out of your haze and try to express yourself more clearly Christine. I thought you were inferring from something she said on comments *here* about LP that she was considering legal action against LP whereas I thought her comments here were only directed against Fatty Adams.
Perhaps some clarification from the lady herself is in order.
Why would you want her to dredge up her own fucking witch-hunt you mutant?
My God Man. Have you no human feeling?
I knew you were an inside-outsky the whole fucking time.
SkepticLawyer:
Aaahh! I know! He is rewriting his CV and he’s up to the “Relavent Experience” section.
Experience Enhancehent is standard practice in Australia’s Human Resources sector nowadays …. it works for eminent surgeons and all sorts of other professionals so you can’t blame him, can you? :-).
GMB [post 49];
Yeah, alright. I’ll Second that motion. All those in favour, say “Aye”.
[And if you don't, your blood will freeze, Scary, isn't it?
L-O-L ].
SkepticLawyer:
Update. Philip Adams believes that he didn’t interview you on Late Night Live after all. Seems you were both waitng in a green room waiting to be interviewed about your respective books; this would have been soon after you won one of your prizes. He felt you were “marmorial”.
Marmorial? Statuesque maybe; having a very fair complexion perhaps …. but “marmorial”?
No. No. Don’t sue.
GMB:
If you can have two presenters now on ABC Radio National’s “CounterPoint”, how do you think you would go as co-presenter with Philip Adams on “Late Night Live”?
“If you can have two presenters now on ABC Radio National’s “CounterPointâ€, how do you think you would go as co-presenter with Philip Adams on “Late Night Liveâ€? ”
The amount of methane in the atmosphere would double, for one thing.
Bell?
This Simon Smith pervert sound like Adams to you?
Marmorial? I had to look that one up but at least it wasn’t a tits joke.
She probably didn’t speak to him because she didn’t know who he was.
Had a chat this morning (UK time) with a lady from Media Watch, Antoinette (sp); I’m sure she’d be happy to add this to her list…
I had to admit that I wasn’t getting all the ‘Phat Adams’ jokes people were making over here and at Blair’s, because I can’t remember ever meeting a short fat bloke with a beard fitting Adams’ description at the ABC. Maybe he was on a diet kick that year.
Will keep you all posted.
Just listened to the latest program and Adams’ “correction”. Nice try Philly-bluster but you’ll have to do better than that.
Perhaps he has a mortal fear of statuary?
GMB:
Just curious but who/what is “Simon Smith”?
Anyway, the job goes with a big black car, free parking anywhere in the Sydney CBD, unlimited Bollinger for breakfast, free handshakes with the rich and famous, free listening to any Lucky Oceans’ music program, a salary of squillions [subject to employers' discretion] and, best of all, a chance to meet Australia’s top-rating social commentator on a regular basis ….. here, just sign this AWA and the job’s yours.
Graham Bell. Look at 55. That Simon Smith.
I reckon he writes like the fabulist Adams talks.
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I just listened to his excuse. Still putting in the rabbit-punch.
“Well I found her MARMORIAL….. very cold.”
We would want to compare this to the original bullshit. I think the comparison reveals that it wasn’t just a mixup but a really vicious sneak attack.
MARMORIAL: Of, relating to, or suggestive of marble or a marble statue, especially in coldness.
Like a marble statue hey?
Sonofabitch may even be trying to FLATTER his way out of it.
Thats good. Thats not a bad thing.
Well if recent revelations about what Adams does to his microphone are true, Helen should thank her lucky stars, she has not popped into his Luvvie-Lair for interrogation!
GMB [96]:
Yeah, saw 55 but was asking for elucidation …. which you have now given anyway; thanks.
But you still haven’t signed up for the Co-Presenter job. Look, we’ll chuck in extras to entice you [1] An exclusive interview with Mr V.I.Ulyanov from “The Other Side”. [2] 16 half-programs and two FULL programs of your own views on Economics … uninterrupted. [3] AWA written in US Dollars. [4] Dinner with Mr P.Adams at Restaurant Harry-De-Wheels every Thursday evening prior to going to air. What do you say? Nobody else can come up with a job offer better than that . Don’t worry about reading all those convoluted paragraphs, they’re just a legal requirement …. Here, just sign next to the Stik-It labels …. your usual signature ….
Look I’ll sign up but Adams would only get in the way.
GMB [99]:
L-O-L
No worries. Clause inserted. Other co-Presenter deleted. The AWA will ready as soon as the documentation team member we hired for the day figures out how to use that flat thing with all those letters on it in front of the games-screen.
This article was discussed on Media Watch last night. They aired what seemed to be some form of admission from Phillip Adams that he was mistaken about the occasion of the interview, however he also seemed to leave hanging the possibility that Helen was mistaken about them having met.
Ron Brunton seemed to come in for more of a grilling than Phillip Adams. Essentially for having prejudged the allegation against Phillip Adams via his comments in this blog here.
Those evil sons of bitches. They hassled Ron for doing the right thing.
By Allah their arrogance just doesn’t bottom out.
Is mediawatch online do you think? I’ll check anyway. This is unacceptable behaviour from these parasites. It would be barely acceptable even if they all had proper jobs.
Yeah its a disgraceful hatchet job. Its the bloodsuckers looking after themselves. Its rubbing salt in the wounds and its the witch-hunt eternal.
ADAMS was caught bullshitting. NOT anyone else. But somehow these taxeaters and lynch-mob-fanatics managed to turn the matter on its head.
The socialist media can dish it out to the crony-media, but it looks like its somewhat beneath them to take it. Looks like its one rule for them and another rule for everyone else when it comes to the ABC.
They even despise oversight from outsiders. They are just a little bit too high and mighty for that.
Retaliate Ron.
Save the taxpayer a heap of cash and fire a bunch of people!!! You know that this is the right thing to do. Surely thats what you ought to do. There ought not have been any story on your advice to skeptic. You were working in the spirit of your mandate but this crowd of untouchables weren’t.
Fire them to show whose boss. Their job was to expose the Adams mistake. And look how they have now decided… that BLOG CONVERSATIONS come under their orbit???????????
So all of a sudden its not media-watch. Its blog-watch too. Trawling through the thread to shift the blame off an ABC screw-up and onto anyone else but the ABC insiders.
These people need to be slapped around and there is simply no substitute for sackings.
They ought have responded to the lodged complaint from Helen and what was said on the actual media. AND NOTHING ELSE. This is an extraordinary innovation of their part.
I would go so far as to say that its an egregious invasion of privacy on the part of mediawatch.
These people disgust me.
Time to save the taxpayer some money.
Agreed, Graeme.
Our tax dollars at ‘work’ again.
Can anyone point to a concise summary of what happened and what media watch did?
I’ll go one better, JohnZ, here’s the transcript:
http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/s2042144.htm
More like being beaten with a pillow than a hatchet job.
Its interesting that Adams nows says he should be excused for mistaking the identity of an interviewee who was the subject of ‘chilling’ as well as ‘long interview’.
Maybe he recounts past interviews in the manner of the proverbial fisherman.
Doing a little googling I came across this bizarre rant re. The Hand That Signed The Paper and the Demidenko affair by Paul Watson.
Watson’s entire blog seems to be in aid of the Gen X/Baby boomers civil war in the “The Boomers Are Responsible for my Shit Life” vein which is sooo 1991 and totally tedious to boot. Here’s a sample:
So there you go Skeptic. You’re the reason there’s no Gen X literature (except actually there is). Don’t you feel guilty? I mean this guy’d probably be a superstar novelist if it wasn’t for you.
Having read The Hand That Signed The Paper and some of attendant commentary I find it amusing to learn that some people still don’t know what the word ‘fiction’ means. I guess they think that Anthony Burgess and Stanley Kubrick were teenage delinquents too. And it’s interesting to note that the literary establishment didn’t regard the book as anti-semitic until after the blown cover. Or is it okay to be a bigot as long as you’re from Ukraine?
Ah good old Paul Watson. I’m surprised he’s still alive and kicking, given how terminally depressed he seems. He and Gummo would make quite the team.
Good call Bird. They really are disgusting parasites, aren’t they? they turned the story into something else so the fat trotter wouldn’t cop all of it.
What a nice bunch to have for dinner.
They basically heaped allegations, or at least dug up old ones, from when she was a kid……. Thats what that last one-liner was about.
They dug this stuff up after a nationwide witch-hunt where all accusations of various degrees of bullshitartistry were raised up as the very example of high crimes and nothing-a-misdemeanor.
NOTHING A MISDEMEANOR.
You know how the witches Macbeth that Macbeth will sleep no more. That Macbeth murders sleep?
Well these same hags and man-whores whisper to HELEN that nothings a MISDEMEANOR any more. The hags whisper that any funny thing that Helen does is not the least bit funny at all. Its not the least bit funny and sin, wrong-doing, and the deserving of shit-covered contempt are redefined anew daily with her actions or at least with any potential slipups she might make.
Nothings a misdemeanor and everythings a HIGH-CRIME with this girl.
I’m up late and drunk one Saturday Night and I look around for an excuse to talk to Skeptic. And she has me on about some pig.
Oh its a nationwide fucking-scandal. Nothings a misdemeanor anymore. Its like they want to deny her the right to be a woman.
I fucking hate these people so much. They couldn’t even apologize. Fucking-Adams couldn’t even so much as make a self-depricating joke about early-onset-Altzheimers.
The fucking fact is ADAMS KNEW!!!!!! he’d never met her. He knew he’d never met her. If the ABC could have acted a bit humble we would still have taken a folded-arms-attitude to their pathetic excuses.
And ultimately Adams excuses were totally pathetic. But we would accept them if they were at least somewhat humble and not this ABC handball affair.
The fucking fact is Adams knew he’d never met her….. and he put the socialist rabbit-punch in ANYHOW!!!!!!
Adams put the rabbit-punch in ANYHOW and he put the rabbit-punch in that very minute he thought he could get away with it on account of her flying out of the country.
Thats what happened. Thats the true history of this affair.
Thats the sort of bully-boy lynch-mob-mania that fuels these leftists day by day.
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Adams ought to have said the following:
“Helen. Please forgive me. I don’t expect you to believe me. But here goes……
…. Honest-Injun. I thought I had interviewed you.
I was quite tired that night I did that interview whereupon I mentioned your name. There were other matters that were upsetting me that I won’t bore Gladys with…… And now I recognise that my words were unfeeling, petty and mean-spiritied”
Thats what he should have said and it would be taken as given that he owed Helen a favour.
But oh no.
The fucking ABC tag-team has given him the least offensive lines, and in a triumph of the division-of-labour they have decided to abuse our good friend Helen again.
This girl who has more talent and class then any two-dozen of these bludgers.
I hate them so much JC.
I hate them so very very much.
Thanks Dover.
I thought the Media watch transcript was pretty reasonable for a he said/she said situation.
I definitely went away feeling that Helen was probably correct and I’d say most viewers would to.
Thanks for the summary, folks - treat it as free advertising for Catallaxy. I gather they also got into Ron Brunton, though, who was only trying to do his job. Cheeky bastards.
I haven’t seen the show, and have only just got onto the Oxford network - I arrived last night. I’m in the most gorgeous accommodation here at Brasenose, it’s a lovely sunny day (yes, they have them in the UK!) and I’m heading off to pick up my pushbike and wander around Tom Quad etc
Back later on.
“I thought the Media watch transcript was pretty reasonable for a he said/she said situation.”
YOU FUCKING MUTANT!!!
This is what we expect from an asshole who co-opts a living on the basis of laws conjured from out of the cess-pit of malicious-envy ALONE!!!!
1. IT WAS FAR FROM FUCKING REASONABLE.
2. THIS WAS NOT A “HE-SAID, SHE-SAID SITUATION!!!!!!”
You make me sick Z.