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	<title>Comments on: Kevin Rudd = Trendy Vicar (and some reflections on the ASBO)</title>
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		<title>By: skepticlawyer</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2007/11/kevin-rudd-trendy-vicar-and-some-reflections-on-the-asbo/#comment-8649</link>
		<dc:creator>skepticlawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 12:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well well well (three holes in the ground), I go away to write an essay and this turns into an all-in mud wrestle. I don't need to be insulted by Michael the serial stalker on my own thread, everyone needs to stop making random guesses about who other people are (and, much as he irritates me, that includes Michael). I know who he is, so do the rest of the blog admins.

Oh, and the endless posturing about bets taken and or ignored can stop as well, unless you're all willing to (a) be clear about the terms of the bet and (b) stump up the money, either to each other or (preferably) a charity.

Since I do not have time at the business end of term to supervise this stoush, and I've asked nicely once for people to cut it, I'm going to close the thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well well well (three holes in the ground), I go away to write an essay and this turns into an all-in mud wrestle. I don&#8217;t need to be insulted by Michael the serial stalker on my own thread, everyone needs to stop making random guesses about who other people are (and, much as he irritates me, that includes Michael). I know who he is, so do the rest of the blog admins.</p>
<p>Oh, and the endless posturing about bets taken and or ignored can stop as well, unless you&#8217;re all willing to (a) be clear about the terms of the bet and (b) stump up the money, either to each other or (preferably) a charity.</p>
<p>Since I do not have time at the business end of term to supervise this stoush, and I&#8217;ve asked nicely once for people to cut it, I&#8217;m going to close the thread.</p>
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		<title>By: JC.</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2007/11/kevin-rudd-trendy-vicar-and-some-reflections-on-the-asbo/#comment-8648</link>
		<dc:creator>JC.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 12:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You're still obssessing over her aren't you metromick.

What amazes me is how you seem to get upset with SL if I bring up the bet you welshed on. What does she have to do with it. What does sordid obssession above have to do with the bet you walked away from. Are you trying to get at me? Are you that pathetic?

I don't even know why you hang around these parts. She's a contributor here so why hang around Mr. Welsher?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re still obssessing over her aren&#8217;t you metromick.</p>
<p>What amazes me is how you seem to get upset with SL if I bring up the bet you welshed on. What does she have to do with it. What does sordid obssession above have to do with the bet you walked away from. Are you trying to get at me? Are you that pathetic?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t even know why you hang around these parts. She&#8217;s a contributor here so why hang around Mr. Welsher?</p>
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		<title>By: Sinclair Davidson</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2007/11/kevin-rudd-trendy-vicar-and-some-reflections-on-the-asbo/#comment-8647</link>
		<dc:creator>Sinclair Davidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Klingons with a "K" barbarian.</description>
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		<title>By: MichaelF</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2007/11/kevin-rudd-trendy-vicar-and-some-reflections-on-the-asbo/#comment-8646</link>
		<dc:creator>MichaelF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;"And you had better have a good explanation why you attacked SL the way you did."&lt;/i&gt;

Really JC ... or what ... rip my head off JC? You and whose army? Nominate the time and place mate and you are on. As for your blather about the bet - that lie has been totally exposed. As you have for being a spineless, gormless worm.

Oh and since you have brought the SL saga up again ... nup, don't have no excuses JC. Not one. I just did it because she is a serial liar and fraudster who was trying to re-write the history of her delierate and sordid hoax on the public for personal gain. For which she has not given a full accounting nor offered restitution. See JC, I just did it because I could. So, go ahead JC, make my day, every day if you like - do keep bringing it up and I'll keep serving it up. There's plenty more where that came from. Heck, I haven't even touched on her lies about Gaita, her lies about her career as a journalist, her plagiarism, her sacking from The Courier-Mail. Do keep bringing it up JC. And you will do what exactly? When and where? You could base jump out of snake's arse JC. Stupid twerp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;And you had better have a good explanation why you attacked SL the way you did.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Really JC &#8230; or what &#8230; rip my head off JC? You and whose army? Nominate the time and place mate and you are on. As for your blather about the bet - that lie has been totally exposed. As you have for being a spineless, gormless worm.</p>
<p>Oh and since you have brought the SL saga up again &#8230; nup, don&#8217;t have no excuses JC. Not one. I just did it because she is a serial liar and fraudster who was trying to re-write the history of her delierate and sordid hoax on the public for personal gain. For which she has not given a full accounting nor offered restitution. See JC, I just did it because I could. So, go ahead JC, make my day, every day if you like - do keep bringing it up and I&#8217;ll keep serving it up. There&#8217;s plenty more where that came from. Heck, I haven&#8217;t even touched on her lies about Gaita, her lies about her career as a journalist, her plagiarism, her sacking from The Courier-Mail. Do keep bringing it up JC. And you will do what exactly? When and where? You could base jump out of snake&#8217;s arse JC. Stupid twerp.</p>
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		<title>By: JC.</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2007/11/kevin-rudd-trendy-vicar-and-some-reflections-on-the-asbo/#comment-8645</link>
		<dc:creator>JC.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fats

It was pretty bad shit what you did. It was nosing around not minding your own business (agreed?).

Putting up my name on a thread when I am not using my name is outing someone, Fats. I can't understand how you would deny the obvious. I really can't.

Now why would you think I was banned? What would make you think I was banned other than your imagination. I actually quite like lefty and I think he doesn't mind me. I think his politics sucks and being a Green supporter must mean he is brain damaged in some unfortunate way, but he is funny and sometimes also amusing in the way he tries to squirm out of corners. I respect that. J


Why is it likely I would be banned? Thereâ€™s only one site I wouldn't go near and I think we all know which one that is. Why assume I would be banned?


Have you hurt me in any way? What if it was someone else, Fats? What if you dropped my full name there and it wasn't me?


&lt;i&gt;Jeremy didnâ€™t know â€˜real anonâ€™ was â€˜JCâ€™,&lt;/i&gt;

Yes he does. He knows my real name as I think it is actually courteous to inform a site owner if you're not using your real name. He does know my name as I have told him.

I have already explained to you (and you don't seem to get it) that I was using "first anonâ€ as my moniker that day. I hadnâ€™t been there for a very long time and I had forgotten my old one. I made people aware of this when I remembered and subsequently apologized along with an explanation.


I really don't know what you don't get here, Fatfingers.

1. You start meddling in things you have no business meddling in.

2. And you don't want to understand the explanation.


I'm actually speechless that you don't get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fats</p>
<p>It was pretty bad shit what you did. It was nosing around not minding your own business (agreed?).</p>
<p>Putting up my name on a thread when I am not using my name is outing someone, Fats. I can&#8217;t understand how you would deny the obvious. I really can&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Now why would you think I was banned? What would make you think I was banned other than your imagination. I actually quite like lefty and I think he doesn&#8217;t mind me. I think his politics sucks and being a Green supporter must mean he is brain damaged in some unfortunate way, but he is funny and sometimes also amusing in the way he tries to squirm out of corners. I respect that. J</p>
<p>Why is it likely I would be banned? Thereâ€™s only one site I wouldn&#8217;t go near and I think we all know which one that is. Why assume I would be banned?</p>
<p>Have you hurt me in any way? What if it was someone else, Fats? What if you dropped my full name there and it wasn&#8217;t me?</p>
<p><i>Jeremy didnâ€™t know â€˜real anonâ€™ was â€˜JCâ€™,</i></p>
<p>Yes he does. He knows my real name as I think it is actually courteous to inform a site owner if you&#8217;re not using your real name. He does know my name as I have told him.</p>
<p>I have already explained to you (and you don&#8217;t seem to get it) that I was using &#8220;first anonâ€ as my moniker that day. I hadnâ€™t been there for a very long time and I had forgotten my old one. I made people aware of this when I remembered and subsequently apologized along with an explanation.</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t know what you don&#8217;t get here, Fatfingers.</p>
<p>1. You start meddling in things you have no business meddling in.</p>
<p>2. And you don&#8217;t want to understand the explanation.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m actually speechless that you don&#8217;t get it.</p>
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		<title>By: JC.</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2007/11/kevin-rudd-trendy-vicar-and-some-reflections-on-the-asbo/#comment-8644</link>
		<dc:creator>JC.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Metro

I waiting with baited breath.LOL Go away you stooge. And you had better have a good explanation why you attacked SL the way you did. think of an excuse pretty quickly because I'll fucking rip your head off and shit down your neck, you pathetic little troll.

It only stopped when you were made aware that you seemed to be obssessing about her in some unnatural way.... for weeks

And don't make me laugh...... that you finally found ethical vitures. You welshed on a bet and are now angry at the accusation yet you went for SL like a crazed serial obssessive.. You sordid little welsher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Metro</p>
<p>I waiting with baited breath.LOL Go away you stooge. And you had better have a good explanation why you attacked SL the way you did. think of an excuse pretty quickly because I&#8217;ll fucking rip your head off and shit down your neck, you pathetic little troll.</p>
<p>It only stopped when you were made aware that you seemed to be obssessing about her in some unnatural way&#8230;. for weeks</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t make me laugh&#8230;&#8230; that you finally found ethical vitures. You welshed on a bet and are now angry at the accusation yet you went for SL like a crazed serial obssessive.. You sordid little welsher.</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelF</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2007/11/kevin-rudd-trendy-vicar-and-some-reflections-on-the-asbo/#comment-8643</link>
		<dc:creator>MichaelF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My comment on the great ethical "outting" debate here:
http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=3297#comment-68149

JC, you can't even loosely describe the substance of what this bet was meant to be about ... because no such thing occurred. You lied, you made it up. And if ever our paths cross (blog drinks or some such) I put you on notice that I intend to give you a good old fashioned hiding. And for the record JC, I point you to the law of the land as it pertains to "provocation" - that is, if provoked, I am at law able to use reasonable force in response. I regard your baseless lie about me welshing on a bet as severe provocation. I am hereby warning you never to cross my path, because in such circumstances, I view your presence (without a retraction and an apology) as a severe provocation. In such circumstances, and having due regard to the law and this warning and the opportunities I have given you to put up or shut up, I intend to smash you into the middle of next week. You are a lying, gormless, spineless, completely dishonest and dishonourable little shit. You have it coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comment on the great ethical &#8220;outting&#8221; debate here:<br />
<a href="http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=3297#comment-68149" rel="nofollow">http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=3297#comment-68149</a></p>
<p>JC, you can&#8217;t even loosely describe the substance of what this bet was meant to be about &#8230; because no such thing occurred. You lied, you made it up. And if ever our paths cross (blog drinks or some such) I put you on notice that I intend to give you a good old fashioned hiding. And for the record JC, I point you to the law of the land as it pertains to &#8220;provocation&#8221; - that is, if provoked, I am at law able to use reasonable force in response. I regard your baseless lie about me welshing on a bet as severe provocation. I am hereby warning you never to cross my path, because in such circumstances, I view your presence (without a retraction and an apology) as a severe provocation. In such circumstances, and having due regard to the law and this warning and the opportunities I have given you to put up or shut up, I intend to smash you into the middle of next week. You are a lying, gormless, spineless, completely dishonest and dishonourable little shit. You have it coming.</p>
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		<title>By: JC.</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2007/11/kevin-rudd-trendy-vicar-and-some-reflections-on-the-asbo/#comment-8642</link>
		<dc:creator>JC.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Metro:

Please! This angry Anderson look you're trying to portray is really unbecoming even for a seedy little vermin like you.

You welshed the bet and now you're trying to cover it up by preaching violence. That's amusing.

I'm not going to go over pages and pages of threads to prove my point as it simply isn't worth it.

You walked away from the bet.

And by the way, you had better make your first shot the best shot because you won't get another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Metro:</p>
<p>Please! This angry Anderson look you&#8217;re trying to portray is really unbecoming even for a seedy little vermin like you.</p>
<p>You welshed the bet and now you&#8217;re trying to cover it up by preaching violence. That&#8217;s amusing.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to go over pages and pages of threads to prove my point as it simply isn&#8217;t worth it.</p>
<p>You walked away from the bet.</p>
<p>And by the way, you had better make your first shot the best shot because you won&#8217;t get another.</p>
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		<title>By: rog</title>
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		<dc:creator>rog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like him or hate him, Ironbar tuckey makes a good case for sticking to your guns.

Menzies did, he lost the PM to spend 6 years in opposition before winning 16 years and retiring on a high.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like him or hate him, Ironbar tuckey makes a good case for sticking to your guns.</p>
<p>Menzies did, he lost the PM to spend 6 years in opposition before winning 16 years and retiring on a high.</p>
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		<title>By: fatfingers</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2007/11/kevin-rudd-trendy-vicar-and-some-reflections-on-the-asbo/#comment-8640</link>
		<dc:creator>fatfingers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Fatfingers did the same to me on another site"

I didn't out you. You used to post under your real name (I think - I don't have any evidence and I don't care anyway) and then changed to your initials, which is hardly going anonymous. I thought you might be using a pseud to get around being banned at Jeremy's site (not an unlikely possibility, you must admit) and thought it only fair to alert him. It turns out it wasn't necessary - Jeremy didn't know 'real anon' was 'JC', but didn't mind what name you used since you weren't banned. So what should I apologise for? Have you been hurt in any way?

"and he wasnâ€™t even engaging in thread."

Well, I was - my off-topic remark about you was an aside to the point I was making about the subject. But why let the facts get in the way of a good bitching?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Fatfingers did the same to me on another site&#8221;</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t out you. You used to post under your real name (I think - I don&#8217;t have any evidence and I don&#8217;t care anyway) and then changed to your initials, which is hardly going anonymous. I thought you might be using a pseud to get around being banned at Jeremy&#8217;s site (not an unlikely possibility, you must admit) and thought it only fair to alert him. It turns out it wasn&#8217;t necessary - Jeremy didn&#8217;t know &#8216;real anon&#8217; was &#8216;JC&#8217;, but didn&#8217;t mind what name you used since you weren&#8217;t banned. So what should I apologise for? Have you been hurt in any way?</p>
<p>&#8220;and he wasnâ€™t even engaging in thread.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, I was - my off-topic remark about you was an aside to the point I was making about the subject. But why let the facts get in the way of a good bitching?</p>
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