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		<title>By: Club Troppo &#187; Missing Link Daily</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2008/06/18/who-let-the-loons-out/comment-page-1/#comment-13261</link>
		<dc:creator>Club Troppo &#187; Missing Link Daily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Helen &#8220;skepticlawyer&#8221; Dale calls bullshit is unimpressed by a UK academics&#8217; union attempt to organise a boycott of Israel. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Helen &#8220;skepticlawyer&#8221; Dale calls bullshit is unimpressed by a UK academics&#8217; union attempt to organise a boycott of Israel. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Legal Eagle</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2008/06/18/who-let-the-loons-out/comment-page-1/#comment-12591</link>
		<dc:creator>Legal Eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 04:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha ha!

I didn&#039;t watch that show until I was an adult because my younger sister was severely traumatised by the episode where Neil&#039;s head comes off after he sticks it out the train. 

She had a bit of a thing about people&#039;s heads coming off thereafter - does anyone remember that CCs ad where the people&#039;s heads came off into their laps? She really hated that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha ha!</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t watch that show until I was an adult because my younger sister was severely traumatised by the episode where Neil&#8217;s head comes off after he sticks it out the train. </p>
<p>She had a bit of a thing about people&#8217;s heads coming off thereafter &#8211; does anyone remember that CCs ad where the people&#8217;s heads came off into their laps? She really hated that.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrien</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2008/06/18/who-let-the-loons-out/comment-page-1/#comment-12588</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 03:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;When I was about 16, I was into labelling things I didn’t like as “fascist”. My mother took me to task - she said I shouldn’t just throw that word around. I think those people in the Cultural Studies circle need a mother like mine.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s call you&#039;re all fascists. I&#039;m the &lt;a href=&quot;http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d80/hairy_guy_forever/rik.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;people&#039;s poet&lt;/a&gt; and I demand no more social bigotry or hatred by 12pm tomorrow or I&#039;ll set the bomb off.

Get up &lt;a href=&quot;http://tralfaz-archives.com/coverart/N/neil_holef.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Neil&lt;/a&gt; I hate you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>When I was about 16, I was into labelling things I didn’t like as “fascist”. My mother took me to task &#8211; she said I shouldn’t just throw that word around. I think those people in the Cultural Studies circle need a mother like mine.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s call you&#8217;re all fascists. I&#8217;m the <a href="http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d80/hairy_guy_forever/rik.jpg" rel="nofollow">people&#8217;s poet</a> and I demand no more social bigotry or hatred by 12pm tomorrow or I&#8217;ll set the bomb off.</p>
<p>Get up <a href="http://tralfaz-archives.com/coverart/N/neil_holef.jpg" rel="nofollow">Neil</a> I hate you.</p>
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		<title>By: DeusExMacintosh</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2008/06/18/who-let-the-loons-out/comment-page-1/#comment-12578</link>
		<dc:creator>DeusExMacintosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, now Oxbridger. Academic snobbery. [waving finger]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, now Oxbridger. Academic snobbery. [waving finger]</p>
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		<title>By: skepticlawyer</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2008/06/18/who-let-the-loons-out/comment-page-1/#comment-12570</link>
		<dc:creator>skepticlawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know about stripping out results based on discipline, JG, but if you go through the UCU document, most of the loopier resolutions are from second rate former polytechnics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about stripping out results based on discipline, JG, but if you go through the UCU document, most of the loopier resolutions are from second rate former polytechnics.</p>
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		<title>By: John Greenfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Greenfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think if I ever enrolled in course which gave oxygen to a lecturer broadcasting his/her views of the tedious shifting sands of day-to-day politics, I would withdraw on the spot. If it happened at Oxford, I would burst into tears!

What insight into the daily grind of politics do academics have that my Aunt Fanny does not?

A scholar&#039;s worth to his/her students is the superior knowledge s/he has acquired after years of familiarity with great ideas, the most complex thoughts, and research findings. When it comes to what is &quot;really happening&quot; today, here, and now, they are just as blind as the rest of us, except overwhelmingly a shit more bigoted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think if I ever enrolled in course which gave oxygen to a lecturer broadcasting his/her views of the tedious shifting sands of day-to-day politics, I would withdraw on the spot. If it happened at Oxford, I would burst into tears!</p>
<p>What insight into the daily grind of politics do academics have that my Aunt Fanny does not?</p>
<p>A scholar&#8217;s worth to his/her students is the superior knowledge s/he has acquired after years of familiarity with great ideas, the most complex thoughts, and research findings. When it comes to what is &#8220;really happening&#8221; today, here, and now, they are just as blind as the rest of us, except overwhelmingly a shit more bigoted.</p>
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		<title>By: John Greenfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Greenfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SL

Is it possible to identify exactly which academics have supported this, and thus do a quick analysis of support by scholarly discipline?  I would hazard a guess the support increases the lower down the academic food chain you go, with the most enthusiastic concentrated among the softer Social Studies disciplines. 

I would also bet that the peer pressure in the softer disciplines is quite intense, with supporting the boycott demanded as a signal of worshipping at altars of &quot;correct&quot; theologies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SL</p>
<p>Is it possible to identify exactly which academics have supported this, and thus do a quick analysis of support by scholarly discipline?  I would hazard a guess the support increases the lower down the academic food chain you go, with the most enthusiastic concentrated among the softer Social Studies disciplines. </p>
<p>I would also bet that the peer pressure in the softer disciplines is quite intense, with supporting the boycott demanded as a signal of worshipping at altars of &#8220;correct&#8221; theologies.</p>
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		<title>By: Legal Eagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Legal Eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was about 16, I was into labelling things I didn&#039;t like as &quot;fascist&quot;. My mother took me to task - she said I shouldn&#039;t just throw that word around. I think those people in the Cultural Studies circle need a mother like mine. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was about 16, I was into labelling things I didn&#8217;t like as &#8220;fascist&#8221;. My mother took me to task &#8211; she said I shouldn&#8217;t just throw that word around. I think those people in the Cultural Studies circle need a mother like mine. <img src='http://skepticlawyer.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Adrien</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2008/06/18/who-let-the-loons-out/comment-page-1/#comment-12561</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was in a conversation with a young Sino-Australian a couple weeks ago. He studies criminal psychology and he was talking about the things that pissed him off viz political bias. On the Right it was the rigidity of scope, on the Left it was the view that their view was the only view. He saw virtues on both side and just didn&#039;t understand why he was required to subscribe to one camp or t&#039;other. 

I still remember being amongst the Culti Studi postgrad circle a couple years ago and, when referring to the Arts scene as the &#039;Emperor&#039;s New Clothes&#039; being labelled a fascist and a conservative. I&#039;m neither. And they&#039;re not the same thing anyway. 

The thing is none of these people really know anything about politics. Or care. They&#039;re just trained to see things in an overtly political way they don&#039;t even realize they&#039;re doing it. They&#039;re in for a shock &#039;cause I reckon the jig&#039;s just about up. 

Time to get a real job folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in a conversation with a young Sino-Australian a couple weeks ago. He studies criminal psychology and he was talking about the things that pissed him off viz political bias. On the Right it was the rigidity of scope, on the Left it was the view that their view was the only view. He saw virtues on both side and just didn&#8217;t understand why he was required to subscribe to one camp or t&#8217;other. </p>
<p>I still remember being amongst the Culti Studi postgrad circle a couple years ago and, when referring to the Arts scene as the &#8216;Emperor&#8217;s New Clothes&#8217; being labelled a fascist and a conservative. I&#8217;m neither. And they&#8217;re not the same thing anyway. </p>
<p>The thing is none of these people really know anything about politics. Or care. They&#8217;re just trained to see things in an overtly political way they don&#8217;t even realize they&#8217;re doing it. They&#8217;re in for a shock &#8217;cause I reckon the jig&#8217;s just about up. </p>
<p>Time to get a real job folks.</p>
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		<title>By: Legal Eagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Legal Eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, Adrien!

Personally, I would not want my students to be too aware of my political preferences, and I would certainly not want to teach political opinions as &quot;fact&quot; when there is another side to the story. I&#039;m not a member of any political party, I would not tell my students if I was, and I would &lt;i&gt;never, never&lt;/i&gt; squash someone&#039;s opinion just because it differed from mine (I had a very left wing lecturer in first year uni who did this, and since then I have an abhorrence of it).

I suppose some aspect of my personal preferences has to come through somehow (love of restitution and equity), although I try to make it clear that students do not have to follow this, and indeed I really enjoy it if someone puts forth a well thought out opposing point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, Adrien!</p>
<p>Personally, I would not want my students to be too aware of my political preferences, and I would certainly not want to teach political opinions as &#8220;fact&#8221; when there is another side to the story. I&#8217;m not a member of any political party, I would not tell my students if I was, and I would <i>never, never</i> squash someone&#8217;s opinion just because it differed from mine (I had a very left wing lecturer in first year uni who did this, and since then I have an abhorrence of it).</p>
<p>I suppose some aspect of my personal preferences has to come through somehow (love of restitution and equity), although I try to make it clear that students do not have to follow this, and indeed I really enjoy it if someone puts forth a well thought out opposing point of view.</p>
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