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‘I won’t testify. I’m afraid’

By skepticlawyer

Two things jumped out at me after sitting today’s evidence exam (apart from the fact that the seats in the Examination Schools are bloody uncomfortable). The first was the SCOTUS ruling in Heller, where the Court held 5-4 that owning a gun for self-defence purposes was a Second Amendment right, while the second was the House of Lords ruling in Davis, which held that convictions secured wholly or largely on the basis of evidence from anonymous witnesses contravened Article 6(3) of the European Convention on Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms.

Article 6(3) protects the ‘right of confrontation’ – that the accused has the right (via his counsel) to put questions to witnesses in cross-examination. It’s a Constitutional right in the US, and was always a vital part of the orality enshrined at common law. In Davis, Lord Mance argues that its insertion in the European Convention was almost certainly thanks to a common lawyer, as civilian law always gave a great deal more scope to anonymous witnesses and informers (with predictable results).

Both decisions have caused something of a contretemps. In the US, it seems that the role of the Second Amendment as a bulwark against state tyranny has gone by the by, as this piece at Reason makes clear. In the UK, by contrast, HM Government is having 14 sets of kittens and promising to abrogate the Lords’ ruling. Both cases came together in one paper on the exam: we were asked to consider why executive (if not judicial) views of the ‘right of confrontation’ seem to be diverging in the two great common law jurisdictions. I got chatting to an American BCLer after the exam, and – apart from doing what law students everywhere do, shooting the shit about all the stuff we’d accidentally left out of our answers – we batted a few of our theories about this topic back and forth. My American colleague – who, incidentally, is a DC native, and it’s DC’s handgun ban that’s just been rolled by the SCOTUS – made a point I found extremely pertinent. He had the balls to put it in his paper, too, which suggests quite a bit of thought has gone into it.

He argued that the reason that ‘the right of confrontation’ in the US hasn’t been weakened to the same degree that it has in the UK isn’t only constitutional. After all, the UK and the US fell out of the same legal tree. He thinks it’s partly because it’s actually harder to intimidate witnesses in the US. And it’s harder to intimidate witnesses in the US because so many Americans own guns, particularly handguns (easy to hide, easy to use etc). He told me that in his all his time in DC, he learned the hard way that it was easier for criminals to intimidate DC witnesses because it was harder for people to defend themselves. When he worked in other US states with more liberal gun laws, witness intimidation ‘was as rare as oysters in Kansas’. He added that he found the English attitude to self-defence ‘extraordinary’, and described the Martin decision as something he considered ‘incomprehensible’ as an American.

Now this guy is an Obama Democrat, not given to wingnut stalking horses, and very thoughtful: ‘I say this with reluctance, because I hate the ‘gun culture’ in the US. But I do wonder if the price we pay for disarming private citizens is laws that allow people to be convicted on evidence from anonymous witnesses. If you can’t protect yourself, it’s much safer to say “I won’t testify. I’m afraid I’ll be next”.’

Davis was borne from the Metropolitan Police’s ‘Operation Trident‘, which – among other things – was designed to curb organised and gun crime in London, especially in the Afro-Caribbean community. Many of its convictions are built around anonymous witnesses. It’s hard not to hear the despair in one senior Met Officer’s observations:

Defendants in criminal trials now have a legal right to know the identity of witnesses testifying against them.

John Yates told the Daily Telegraph convicted criminals could appeal and be freed if witnesses refused to reveal their identities in a retrial.

Ministers said the issue of protecting witness identities would be addressed.

Police in London believe up to 40 criminals could now launch appeals, the Telegraph reports.

Mr Yates, who is assistant commissioner of the Met, made his comments after Iain Davis’ double murder conviction was quashed by the Law Lords.

He said: “A lot of good work being undone, and this will play out so badly in terms of those we are trying to reach out to in communities. It almost feels like we have broken our word.

“To see clearly guilty people walking free is just awful”.

Experienced criminal lawyers have known for a while that the anonymous witnesses problem was sleepwalking the common law over a cliff not of its own making, and it’s now likely that there will be an almighty shit-fight in Strasbourg over this. Jack Straw (as part of his new law) is also promising to limit the right to appeal for already decided cases which – and I can predict this with absolute certainty – will lead to a ‘certificate of incompatibility’ (under section 4 of the Human Rights Act) and appeal to the European Court of Human Rights.

What if my American friend is right?

I think this is something you could analyse statistically, and I think it’s worth doing. Compare jurisdictions with a robust right to self-defence (including both broad legal definitions and significant private gun ownership). Control for handguns and long arms. Control for armed and unarmed police. Control for anything else that emerges as relevant. Test the data to destruction. It would take a while (there’s a Freakonomics-ish law and economics DPhil in there, I reckon), but it’s worth knowing the answer.

(Thanks Ben for letting me blog this – it’s your great idea, my friend; btw the video shows some Oxfordians giving Jack Straw the treatment he so richly deserves).

UPDATE: Interesting chat on this going on over at the ALS.

18 Comments

  1. drscroogemcduck
    Posted June 27, 2008 at 11:08 am | Permalink

    I think there is an alternative explanation. Societies that ban guns have greater trust in the state and societies that have greater trust in the state are more likely to let the state use anonymous witnesses in trials.

  2. Posted June 27, 2008 at 12:33 pm | Permalink

    Have to say that rings true for me, too, scrooge – but proving it could be awkward.

  3. Posted June 27, 2008 at 12:42 pm | Permalink

    Hmm – I was thinking possibly the reverse – “Do I trust the State to protect me if I do stand up” vs. your “Can I protect myself if I do?”
    I would have thought it would really be the balance between these that mattered.

  4. Posted June 27, 2008 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    I’m not sure I get you, Andrew – unless you’re commenting on the (generally very broad) self-defence definitions in US criminal law. That would give you some confidence if you did have the means to defend yourself.

  5. Apple77
    Posted June 27, 2008 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

    I would never, ever trust the state to stand up for me. It goes against… everything, for me.

    Skepticlawyer, what an amazing thing for your friend to write about on the exam. It’s a completely new idea and I agree it would be interesting to analyse statistically.

  6. Posted June 27, 2008 at 4:30 pm | Permalink

    Interesting post SL.

    I think Andrew has a good point. When it comes to defence, non-Americans seem to see it is purely the role of the government. So your perception of safety depends on whether you trust the government to protect you.

    Americans think more about self-defence, so instead of asking “can the government protect me” they sometimes ask “can I protect myself”.

  7. Sinclair Davidson
    Posted June 28, 2008 at 9:22 am | Permalink

    SL – great post. Not sure what the research question is at the end. Is it “Do societies with greater rights to self-defense have less witness intimidation?” The problem you’d have there is getting decent data on intimidation. The data would be poor. The way around that problem would be to generate an index of witness protection measures and then ask the question “what factors determine greater witness protection?” Control measures would have to include income, crime levels and rule of law. An index of gun control measures could then be introduced to determine the answer to the question.

  8. Posted June 28, 2008 at 2:51 pm | Permalink

    I think there are two questions, Sinc. The first concerns the scope of ‘self defence’ at common law. The second concerns whether actual physical capacity to defend oneself leads to less witness intimidation (Andrew and LE pinged it up the thread). Like many of these things, there’s a rule of law argument buried underneath the practical considerations.

  9. Darryl Rosin
    Posted June 28, 2008 at 11:54 pm | Permalink

    But surely is issue is not ownership but willingness to use lethal force. I’m a gun owner and there’s no way I’d be shooting anyone. Dead guy = EPIC FAIL when the typical outcome of a break and enter is ‘everyone gets out alive’.

    I don’t feel one whit safer because I have rifles and ammo and I don’t see why I should feel any different. Odds are any potential intimidator would be more much proficient with their weapon of choice that I am with any weapon (unless he or she comes armed only with belligerent repartee and I have to rely on my rapier wit).

    d

  10. Posted June 29, 2008 at 10:44 am | Permalink

    I don’t think it’s your gun per se, Darryl. It’s the deterrence it provides. There’s a mountain of research showing that prison and execution and harsh sentences generally don’t deter. By the same token, incapacitation – lengthy prison sentences – is strongly correlated with a reduction in crime (Levitt, 2001). His was the first big study, although David Leyonhjelm has done some smaller scale stuff – he made this comment on the same topic (I posted a link over at his site):

    More than 50% of burglaries in the UK are “hot”, meaning the occupants of the premises are home at the time. The corresponding figure in the US is 13%. The reason for the difference is that burglars in the US fear armed homeowners much more.

    In the UK, as in Australia, it is illegal to own a gun for self defence and very dodgy to try and use one. In most of the US, now including Washington DC, ownership of a gun for self defence at home is pretty much untouchable and 40 or 41 states also issue permits for concealed carry. In addition, a number of US states have passed so-called “castle doctrine” laws which give the home owner a right to shoot burglars.

    I think gun availability also helps explain why the US has a much lower rate of crime than the UK. The only crime that is higher is murder, which some claim is a consequence of the different approaches to control of drugs.

    .
    No doubt Sinkers will turn up and explain which economic incentives to use ;)

  11. Darryl Rosin
    Posted June 30, 2008 at 8:29 am | Permalink

    I don’t see why the presence of weapons in the home would have any effect at all on witness intimidation. There must be dozens of effective ways to intimidate someone that doesn’t involve breaking into their house.

    The whole argument hinges on this sentence: ‘If you can’t protect yourself, it’s much safer to say “I won’t testify. I’m afraid I’ll be next”’. I still can’t see how owning a firearm per se either engenders immunity to intimidation or dissuades criminals from attempting to intimidate witnesses. (unless an attempt to intimidate requires forced entry to witnesses’ homes)

    d

  12. AJ
    Posted June 30, 2008 at 9:52 am | Permalink

    The alternative explanation would be witness intimidation is more common, and threats more likely to be carried out, in cases of organised/gang crime, which DC has in spades. You would need to compare cities that are demographically similar to DC but have different gun laws, like Baltimore or Detroit, rather than the US as a whole.

  13. pedro
    Posted June 30, 2008 at 10:56 am | Permalink

    SL – I’ve seen similar things reported / claimed. You might think the crims will be better with a gun, but they don’t know that.

    I know it’s disputed, but I’ve read claims of large correlations between widespread gun ownership and reductions in crime. It seems like the gun crime in the US is worse in the places with the strongest restrictions, but also the largest drug problems. I recall reading that Washington DC has high gun murder rates, but a large proportion is drug related.

    Switzerland is the usual example of a low crime / lots of guns country.

  14. Posted June 30, 2008 at 6:38 pm | Permalink

    David Leyonhjelm made the point over at the ALS that a huge chunk of US crime is directly related to the idiot ‘War on Drugs’ caper. It really does make you wonder how long a given policy has to be stuck on EPIC FAIL (I do rather like that, Darryl) before someone in authority admits that, ahem, it was a bad idea.

  15. TerjeP
    Posted June 30, 2008 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

    The thing to note about gun homicide in the USA is that it is not uniquely higher than other forms of homicide. Americans kill eachother more, both with and without guns.

  16. TerjeP
    Posted June 30, 2008 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

    My last comment is not clear.

    My point is that homicide is typically higher in the USA even for means of murder other than firearms.

    http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg00867.html

    Of the 839 homicides in England and Wales in the 12 months ending Nov. 28 — the most recent period for which Home Office figures are available — 29% involved sharp instruments including knives, blades and swords. Firearms account for just 9% of murders in Britain. The murder rate in Britain is 15 per million people.

    The U.S. murder rate is 55 per million, according to the FBI. Of those, 70% of murders were committed with firearms; just 14% involved knives or cutting instruments.

    Doing the maths suggests that knife homicide in the two countries occur at the following rates:-

    US = 7.70 per million
    UK = 4.35 per million

    With knives alone the Americans still kill eachother at twice the rate that the British do.

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