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		<title>By: John Greenfield</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2008/06/i-am-woman-hear-me-detonate/#comment-12519</link>
		<dc:creator>John Greenfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adrien

I love your quote from Camille Paglia. But my all-time favourite is

&lt;i&gt;If civilisation had been left in the hands of women, we'd all still be living in grass huts!&lt;/i&gt;.

Biaaaaiitch!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adrien</p>
<p>I love your quote from Camille Paglia. But my all-time favourite is</p>
<p><i>If civilisation had been left in the hands of women, we&#8217;d all still be living in grass huts!</i>.</p>
<p>Biaaaaiitch!  <img src='http://skepticlawyer.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Adrien</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2008/06/i-am-woman-hear-me-detonate/#comment-12517</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DEM -

&lt;i&gt;The very mainstream, respected, english-speaking imam (who bred ornamental chickens as a hobby) explained that the reason women judges can’t sit on a sharia court bench is that their monthly cycle of hormones make their judgement unreliable.&lt;/i&gt;

Well he's advanced y'see. That's the late 19th century at least he's gotten thru the Enlightenment. Actually the trouble with the Muslim world is it hasn't. It's still in that phase whereby knowledge is canonical not inquisitive. 

In contrast to the premenstrual judge I'm thinking of the Naval officer in Cairo whose car was blocked by my mother. My mother was going down a narrow one way street &lt;i&gt;the right way&lt;/i&gt;. This dude in full regalia (the shittier the country the gaudier the military) came down the other way in his chauffeur'd limousine. My mother wouldn't't budge. So this guy goes ballistic, throws a tantrum and gets out the car waving his shoe in the air and jumping up and down! Seriously. He went purple.   

Men raised by mothers who're theologically obliged to treat them like their Lords and Masters are always &lt;i&gt;so&lt;/i&gt; in control of their emotions. 

My mum won of course. 'Strine shielas. Tops. 

I do like a bit of the old ultra-vi DEM. Onscreen of course. And luvely luvely Ludwig Van as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DEM -</p>
<p><i>The very mainstream, respected, english-speaking imam (who bred ornamental chickens as a hobby) explained that the reason women judges can’t sit on a sharia court bench is that their monthly cycle of hormones make their judgement unreliable.</i></p>
<p>Well he&#8217;s advanced y&#8217;see. That&#8217;s the late 19th century at least he&#8217;s gotten thru the Enlightenment. Actually the trouble with the Muslim world is it hasn&#8217;t. It&#8217;s still in that phase whereby knowledge is canonical not inquisitive. </p>
<p>In contrast to the premenstrual judge I&#8217;m thinking of the Naval officer in Cairo whose car was blocked by my mother. My mother was going down a narrow one way street <i>the right way</i>. This dude in full regalia (the shittier the country the gaudier the military) came down the other way in his chauffeur&#8217;d limousine. My mother wouldn&#8217;t't budge. So this guy goes ballistic, throws a tantrum and gets out the car waving his shoe in the air and jumping up and down! Seriously. He went purple.   </p>
<p>Men raised by mothers who&#8217;re theologically obliged to treat them like their Lords and Masters are always <i>so</i> in control of their emotions. </p>
<p>My mum won of course. &#8216;Strine shielas. Tops. </p>
<p>I do like a bit of the old ultra-vi DEM. Onscreen of course. And luvely luvely Ludwig Van as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Bath</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2008/06/i-am-woman-hear-me-detonate/#comment-12509</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Bath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 02:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LE said: "my husband shares home duties with me as much as he can".

A recent Harvard Bus School newsletter says 
(http://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/5935.html)
"The traditional division of labor between the sexes—women managing the private realm and men the public—continues to have an indirect influence on job negotiation outcomes through links between private realm and public realm negotiations. Women's negotiations at work are often constrained by agreements in negotiations at home."

A Euro group-"blog" (mainly of economics professors) has long pointed to general  perceptions of domestic labor balance affecting compensation in the workplace (as I've discussed &lt;a href="http://balneus.wordpress.com/2008/01/31/will-maternal-leave-disadvantage-women/" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href="http://balneus.wordpress.com/2007/07/22/paid-paternal-leave-might-fix-gender-wage-inequity/" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; )

So... women might negotiate better job compensation by dropping big hints about how useful their partner is about the home.

But single parenthood, by the same token, decreases compensation for the same work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LE said: &#8220;my husband shares home duties with me as much as he can&#8221;.</p>
<p>A recent Harvard Bus School newsletter says<br />
(http://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/5935.html)<br />
&#8220;The traditional division of labor between the sexes—women managing the private realm and men the public—continues to have an indirect influence on job negotiation outcomes through links between private realm and public realm negotiations. Women&#8217;s negotiations at work are often constrained by agreements in negotiations at home.&#8221;</p>
<p>A Euro group-&#8221;blog&#8221; (mainly of economics professors) has long pointed to general  perceptions of domestic labor balance affecting compensation in the workplace (as I&#8217;ve discussed <a href="http://balneus.wordpress.com/2008/01/31/will-maternal-leave-disadvantage-women/" rel="nofollow">here</a>, and <a href="http://balneus.wordpress.com/2007/07/22/paid-paternal-leave-might-fix-gender-wage-inequity/" rel="nofollow">here</a> )</p>
<p>So&#8230; women might negotiate better job compensation by dropping big hints about how useful their partner is about the home.</p>
<p>But single parenthood, by the same token, decreases compensation for the same work.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hasenkam</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Hasenkam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 02:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes LE, men can achieve better focus and this may relate to my earlier comment re the relevant spread of cortical activation between men and women.

Try concentration meditation, it has even been found to help ADHD. It takes some months of practice but it can remarkably improve concentration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes LE, men can achieve better focus and this may relate to my earlier comment re the relevant spread of cortical activation between men and women.</p>
<p>Try concentration meditation, it has even been found to help ADHD. It takes some months of practice but it can remarkably improve concentration.</p>
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		<title>By: Legal Eagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Legal Eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 02:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm lucky on that account - my husband shares home duties with me as much as he can. For example, he looked after our daughter on Sunday while I rewrote a paper for publication.

But dividing your attention is very difficult. I'm constantly pulled two ways, and that does make concentration more difficult. I can't just shut out family, whereas some people seem to be able to do that more easily. I do think that men find it easier to shut things out in general, although I concede that there are men who don't fit the stereotype, and women who are good at compartmentalising life too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m lucky on that account - my husband shares home duties with me as much as he can. For example, he looked after our daughter on Sunday while I rewrote a paper for publication.</p>
<p>But dividing your attention is very difficult. I&#8217;m constantly pulled two ways, and that does make concentration more difficult. I can&#8217;t just shut out family, whereas some people seem to be able to do that more easily. I do think that men find it easier to shut things out in general, although I concede that there are men who don&#8217;t fit the stereotype, and women who are good at compartmentalising life too.</p>
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		<title>By: su</title>
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		<dc:creator>su</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 23:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Undergrad years are one thing, I think the stresses of PhD's kind of select against women a bit.  I'm not speaking from experience as I've been tooling around at Grad Dip level but I really noticed how much easier it was for my sister's male friends doing a PhD.  My sister had to scrape by on a pittance and had no one taking up the slack on the home front, organising food, paying bills and so forth, while male peers either had partners or mothers kind of taking care of the basic living stuff.  It is having to divide your attention that is the real killer.  My concentration skills have declined over a decade+ of child rearing.  I have a feeling that I will not be able to get them back until the blighters leave home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Undergrad years are one thing, I think the stresses of PhD&#8217;s kind of select against women a bit.  I&#8217;m not speaking from experience as I&#8217;ve been tooling around at Grad Dip level but I really noticed how much easier it was for my sister&#8217;s male friends doing a PhD.  My sister had to scrape by on a pittance and had no one taking up the slack on the home front, organising food, paying bills and so forth, while male peers either had partners or mothers kind of taking care of the basic living stuff.  It is having to divide your attention that is the real killer.  My concentration skills have declined over a decade+ of child rearing.  I have a feeling that I will not be able to get them back until the blighters leave home.</p>
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		<title>By: conrad</title>
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		<dc:creator>conrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I didn’t realise that marriage (even without children) has a negative impact"

If you get away from money, its even worse for women -- most studies suggest that, overall, in the long run, marriage is a slight positive for males and a slight negative for women (no more 20 beers on Saturday night).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I didn’t realise that marriage (even without children) has a negative impact&#8221;</p>
<p>If you get away from money, its even worse for women &#8212; most studies suggest that, overall, in the long run, marriage is a slight positive for males and a slight negative for women (no more 20 beers on Saturday night).</p>
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		<title>By: John Hasenkam</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Hasenkam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It can be very difficult to make some women realise how smart they are. Some years ago an old friend of mine contacted me just after she had gone through a rather horrendous period in her life. I pushed shit up hill for two years trying to make her realise that if she went to Uni she would do just fine. She did much better than that, GPA of 6.5, single mother with one beautiful daughter, while re-establishing her career and moving to a new town. Even surprised me, particularly as she is a real party animal. 

How did I know? Years prior to that I lent her some rather difficult texts. She ploughed through these so easily and I could tell by her conversation that she really knew the material. 

Now with a man, if you say, Hey, you're smart - the likely reply is, "Course I am you moron and much smarter than you."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It can be very difficult to make some women realise how smart they are. Some years ago an old friend of mine contacted me just after she had gone through a rather horrendous period in her life. I pushed shit up hill for two years trying to make her realise that if she went to Uni she would do just fine. She did much better than that, GPA of 6.5, single mother with one beautiful daughter, while re-establishing her career and moving to a new town. Even surprised me, particularly as she is a real party animal. </p>
<p>How did I know? Years prior to that I lent her some rather difficult texts. She ploughed through these so easily and I could tell by her conversation that she really knew the material. </p>
<p>Now with a man, if you say, Hey, you&#8217;re smart - the likely reply is, &#8220;Course I am you moron and much smarter than you.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: DeusExMacintosh</title>
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		<dc:creator>DeusExMacintosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enjoy lashings of the old 'ultraviolent', do you Adrien? ;)

&lt;i&gt;Maybe the terrorists are ensuring that they cannot be accused of taking advantage of the “temporary insanity” that some sufferers of extreme PMS…&lt;/i&gt;

I lost hope for the future of muslim men about five years ago while watching a fly-on-the-wall doco filmed in one of the big mosques in Northern England. The very mainstream, respected, english-speaking imam (who bred ornamental chickens as a hobby) explained that the reason women judges can't sit on a sharia court bench is that their monthly cycle of hormones make their judgement unreliable. 

Honestly, you work for so many years to become a respected leader of your community and then do something that completely undermines your credibility. I mean, really ... &lt;i&gt;ornamental chickens&lt;/i&gt;!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enjoy lashings of the old &#8216;ultraviolent&#8217;, do you Adrien? <img src='http://skepticlawyer.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><i>Maybe the terrorists are ensuring that they cannot be accused of taking advantage of the “temporary insanity” that some sufferers of extreme PMS…</i></p>
<p>I lost hope for the future of muslim men about five years ago while watching a fly-on-the-wall doco filmed in one of the big mosques in Northern England. The very mainstream, respected, english-speaking imam (who bred ornamental chickens as a hobby) explained that the reason women judges can&#8217;t sit on a sharia court bench is that their monthly cycle of hormones make their judgement unreliable. </p>
<p>Honestly, you work for so many years to become a respected leader of your community and then do something that completely undermines your credibility. I mean, really &#8230; <i>ornamental chickens</i>!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Legal Eagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Legal Eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't mind intellectual arrogance if it's &lt;i&gt;merited&lt;/i&gt;, but I hate it if it's not merited.

Nonetheless, sometimes, a little bit of humility and goofiness is an attractive thing, I agree. 

What does get really frustrating is if a clever person puts themselves down all the time (which is a little bit different to dumbing down).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mind intellectual arrogance if it&#8217;s <i>merited</i>, but I hate it if it&#8217;s not merited.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, sometimes, a little bit of humility and goofiness is an attractive thing, I agree. </p>
<p>What does get really frustrating is if a clever person puts themselves down all the time (which is a little bit different to dumbing down).</p>
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