Comments on: Tantrums http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2008/07/tantrums/ Two lawyers on law, legislation and liberty. And other stuff. Fri, 09 Jan 2009 13:32:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Nanu http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2008/07/tantrums/comment-page-1/#comment-13519 Nanu Thu, 31 Jul 2008 02:41:42 +0000 http://skepticlawyer.com.au/?p=806#comment-13519 Coincidentally, I threw a bit of a hissy fit myself last night over something trivial, my wife just gave me a totally bemused look. Now I wonder where the kids get it from? ;) Coincidentally, I threw a bit of a hissy fit myself last night over something trivial, my wife just gave me a totally bemused look. Now I wonder where the kids get it from? ;)

]]> By: Legal Eagle http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2008/07/tantrums/comment-page-1/#comment-13518 Legal Eagle Thu, 31 Jul 2008 02:14:00 +0000 http://skepticlawyer.com.au/?p=806#comment-13518 There are most definitely such things as animal tantrums. The family dog has tantrums when he has to have a bath. He hides under the couch...not the shower recess (that's too close to the danger zone). He actually tries to hit people with his paws too. There are most definitely such things as animal tantrums. The family dog has tantrums when he has to have a bath. He hides under the couch…not the shower recess (that’s too close to the danger zone). He actually tries to hit people with his paws too.

]]> By: skepticlawyer http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2008/07/tantrums/comment-page-1/#comment-13517 skepticlawyer Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:58:24 +0000 http://skepticlawyer.com.au/?p=806#comment-13517 I think I've discovered that there is such a thing as an 'animal tantrum'. It comes about when DEM's cat hears the fireworks from the tattoo and then hides in the shower stall. Last time I was here I forgot that's where he hides during all the racket, and hopped in to wash my hair. Yes, it is possible to be written off by a cat! I think I’ve discovered that there is such a thing as an ‘animal tantrum’. It comes about when DEM’s cat hears the fireworks from the tattoo and then hides in the shower stall. Last time I was here I forgot that’s where he hides during all the racket, and hopped in to wash my hair.

Yes, it is possible to be written off by a cat!

]]> By: Legal Eagle http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2008/07/tantrums/comment-page-1/#comment-13508 Legal Eagle Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:57:42 +0000 http://skepticlawyer.com.au/?p=806#comment-13508 Oooh, a red letter day, my hubby comments! Oooh, a red letter day, my hubby comments!

]]> By: Husband of LE http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2008/07/tantrums/comment-page-1/#comment-13507 Husband of LE Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:47:04 +0000 http://skepticlawyer.com.au/?p=806#comment-13507 thanks for all the reassuring comments, it's probably true that a parent of a screaming child is likely to be overly paranoid. oanh - i agree, i don't feel as angry with inconsiderate vehicles once i've seen they probably have a kid on board! andrew - our daughter unfortunately loves seeing photos/videos of her tantrums, but maybe that tactic will work when she gets older adn more self aware... thanks for all the reassuring comments, it’s probably true that a parent of a screaming child is likely to be overly paranoid.

oanh - i agree, i don’t feel as angry with inconsiderate vehicles once i’ve seen they probably have a kid on board!

andrew - our daughter unfortunately loves seeing photos/videos of her tantrums, but maybe that tactic will work when she gets older adn more self aware…

]]> By: Legal Eagle http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2008/07/tantrums/comment-page-1/#comment-13506 Legal Eagle Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:14:17 +0000 http://skepticlawyer.com.au/?p=806#comment-13506 Nanu, I like the fact that the article you linked suggested taking away lollies, chocolate and DVDs at the checkout, as well as cutting down on those blasted rides which seem to be everywhere... Hear hear! But I don't think it will happen... Nanu, I like the fact that the article you linked suggested taking away lollies, chocolate and DVDs at the checkout, as well as cutting down on those blasted rides which seem to be everywhere… Hear hear! But I don’t think it will happen…

]]> By: Adrien http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2008/07/tantrums/comment-page-1/#comment-13505 Adrien Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:47:26 +0000 http://skepticlawyer.com.au/?p=806#comment-13505 Scrtatch that. You should see my cousin Michael's kids. Egad! Scrtatch that. You should see my cousin Michael’s kids. Egad!

]]> By: Adrien http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2008/07/tantrums/comment-page-1/#comment-13504 Adrien Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:46:46 +0000 http://skepticlawyer.com.au/?p=806#comment-13504 <i>I’m with you there. I’m not one of those mothers who sits back while her child starts to draw on the walls of someone else’s house.</i> Have you seen <i>Raising Arizona</i>? :) I’m with you there. I’m not one of those mothers who sits back while her child starts to draw on the walls of someone else’s house.

Have you seen Raising Arizona? :)

]]> By: Nanu http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2008/07/tantrums/comment-page-1/#comment-13499 Nanu Wed, 30 Jul 2008 05:34:23 +0000 http://skepticlawyer.com.au/?p=806#comment-13499 You are not alone...help is on the way... "Shopping centres offer tantrum-taming classes for weary mums" Herald Sun 25/7/2008 http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24072815-2862,00.html ___________________________________ Our ten year old girl is a complete drama queen, and although she doesn't have to many public tantrums, my wife & I live in fear of the day she starts her 'monthly'. For me the garden shed is looking good, not for her but for me. I reckon I could make it ok to live in! ;) You are not alone…help is on the way…

“Shopping centres offer tantrum-taming classes for weary mums” Herald Sun 25/7/2008

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24072815-2862,00.html
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Our ten year old girl is a complete drama queen, and although she doesn’t have to many public tantrums, my wife & I live in fear of the day she starts her ‘monthly’. For me the garden shed is looking good, not for her but for me. I reckon I could make it ok to live in! ;)

]]> By: Nanu http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2008/07/tantrums/comment-page-1/#comment-13497 Nanu Wed, 30 Jul 2008 03:52:23 +0000 http://skepticlawyer.com.au/?p=806#comment-13497 Next time leave her in the carpark and go play the pokies! :-) I think there is a happy medium from my experience, rather than ignoring or losing it, I would have tried to rationalise with her (if that can be said to be possible in the terrible 2's) and see if she could offer an alternative method for transporting the goods. No doubt she would suggest that you get out your iphone and order your groceries online and get them delivered. Kids pick up on signals especially negative one at the worst time. Your daughter would have picked up on your tiredness and your wish to be elsewhere rather than buying groceries and would have taken that and your focus to get through an unpleasant task as a rejection of her as well. Ignoring her probably only compounded the situation and also unintentionally sent the signal that she dictates how she will behave not you. If all else failed I would have risked a visit from child services and gave her a smack. BTW, never offer a reward to combat unruly behavior, as her good behavior becomes something that has you indebted to her. It also your job as a mother to be humiliated in public, so I suggest you get used to it. Alternatively Dave's solution is a good one! ;) Next time leave her in the carpark and go play the pokies! :-)

I think there is a happy medium from my experience, rather than ignoring or losing it, I would have tried to rationalise with her (if that can be said to be possible in the terrible 2’s) and see if she could offer an alternative method for transporting the goods. No doubt she would suggest that you get out your iphone and order your groceries online and get them delivered.

Kids pick up on signals especially negative one at the worst time. Your daughter would have picked up on your tiredness and your wish to be elsewhere rather than buying groceries and would have taken that and your focus to get through an unpleasant task as a rejection of her as well. Ignoring her probably only compounded the situation and also unintentionally sent the signal that she dictates how she will behave not you. If all else failed I would have risked a visit from child services and gave her a smack.

BTW, never offer a reward to combat unruly behavior, as her good behavior becomes something that has you indebted to her.

It also your job as a mother to be humiliated in public, so I suggest you get used to it. Alternatively Dave’s solution is a good one! ;)

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