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	<title>Comments on: A rose by any other name</title>
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		<title>By: olly</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2009/06/23/a-rose-by-any-other-name/comment-page-2/#comment-40858</link>
		<dc:creator>olly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 03:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Christian of white skin colour I am sick of being the target of other peoples racist veiws. I live down the street from a Synagogue and my family and myself have been the target of anti - christian racism for most of my life. I was not born in Australia myself, but because of my skin colour am consistently targeted by those who have a separtist agenda and who are themselves racist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Christian of white skin colour I am sick of being the target of other peoples racist veiws. I live down the street from a Synagogue and my family and myself have been the target of anti &#8211; christian racism for most of my life. I was not born in Australia myself, but because of my skin colour am consistently targeted by those who have a separtist agenda and who are themselves racist.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Bath</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2009/06/23/a-rose-by-any-other-name/comment-page-2/#comment-38598</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Bath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 10:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On lawyer jokes.... the idea just popped into my head (multitasking feedreading and spam email deletion) that there HAS to be a joke aimed at male lawyers, &quot;longer lasting performance&quot;, and the magic 6-minute interval, where 6 minutes 1 second is classified as 12 minutes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On lawyer jokes&#8230;. the idea just popped into my head (multitasking feedreading and spam email deletion) that there HAS to be a joke aimed at male lawyers, &#8220;longer lasting performance&#8221;, and the magic 6-minute interval, where 6 minutes 1 second is classified as 12 minutes.</p>
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		<title>By: Legal Eagle</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2009/06/23/a-rose-by-any-other-name/comment-page-2/#comment-38587</link>
		<dc:creator>Legal Eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 09:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, we well and truly deserve it. Seriously, many of us do. (Present company excepted, of course).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, we well and truly deserve it. Seriously, many of us do. (Present company excepted, of course).</p>
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		<title>By: Adrien</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2009/06/23/a-rose-by-any-other-name/comment-page-2/#comment-38584</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 09:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first tute at law school, first thing the guy says: &lt;i&gt;don&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; tell lawyer jokes. Then he tells one (what&#039;s the difference between a sperm and a human?)
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They should pass the mockery around of course. Real estate agents, PE teachers, bankers -Oh my God yes bankers - security guards and of course copywriters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first tute at law school, first thing the guy says: <i>don&#8217;t</i> tell lawyer jokes. Then he tells one (what&#8217;s the difference between a sperm and a human?)<br />
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They should pass the mockery around of course. Real estate agents, PE teachers, bankers -Oh my God yes bankers &#8211; security guards and of course copywriters.</p>
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		<title>By: Legal Eagle</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2009/06/23/a-rose-by-any-other-name/comment-page-2/#comment-38484</link>
		<dc:creator>Legal Eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually I reckon part of the indigenous problems are as much a class thing as a race thing.

Adrien, c&#039;mon, &lt;i&gt;everyone&lt;/i&gt; loves a lawyer. Well, they do once they&#039;re in trouble...until they get the bill...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I reckon part of the indigenous problems are as much a class thing as a race thing.</p>
<p>Adrien, c&#8217;mon, <i>everyone</i> loves a lawyer. Well, they do once they&#8217;re in trouble&#8230;until they get the bill&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Adrien</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2009/06/23/a-rose-by-any-other-name/comment-page-2/#comment-38480</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 08:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; It’s very sad how often the class/race thing overlaps&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s often exactly the same thing. For example: 19th century Ireland - Anglican = Gentry, Presb = Industrial Bourgeoisie and Catholic = Bog Irish illiterate peasants. 
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Or the Jews. Hi guys you can be the bankers and the lawyers. That&#039;ll make you &lt;i&gt;real&lt;/i&gt; popular. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> It’s very sad how often the class/race thing overlaps</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s often exactly the same thing. For example: 19th century Ireland &#8211; Anglican = Gentry, Presb = Industrial Bourgeoisie and Catholic = Bog Irish illiterate peasants.<br />
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Or the Jews. Hi guys you can be the bankers and the lawyers. That&#8217;ll make you <i>real</i> popular. <img src='http://skepticlawyer.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: conrad</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2009/06/23/a-rose-by-any-other-name/comment-page-2/#comment-38469</link>
		<dc:creator>conrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JG,

working in France now and then, I&#039;m not surprised that you think it&#039;s class thing (I would too). I think that class is at the root of most the problems there, which is quite unlike how the English speaking media portrays it. In my books, at least in France, it&#039;s class, race, religion (but it&#039;s class that kicks it all off), with the English media blaming it on religion, and the French media blaming it on race. Obviously they haven&#039;t noticed they never get bothered by middle-class north Africans, and that most of the members of the street gangs probably haven&#039;t ever read any religious books at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JG,</p>
<p>working in France now and then, I&#8217;m not surprised that you think it&#8217;s class thing (I would too). I think that class is at the root of most the problems there, which is quite unlike how the English speaking media portrays it. In my books, at least in France, it&#8217;s class, race, religion (but it&#8217;s class that kicks it all off), with the English media blaming it on religion, and the French media blaming it on race. Obviously they haven&#8217;t noticed they never get bothered by middle-class north Africans, and that most of the members of the street gangs probably haven&#8217;t ever read any religious books at all.</p>
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		<title>By: TheodoraBrown</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheodoraBrown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 13:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re JG@ 73.  Very.  It&#039;s very sad how often the class/race thing overlaps, though one odd thing that I have observed is that if there is a dramatic move upwards in socio-economic class in a particular immigrant family, relative to their social position in the old country, it almost always happens in the first or early second generation (ie where the parents immigrate as young adults and haven&#039;t settled in for very long before the kids arrive) - if that makes any sense at all to anyone. 

 I wonder if that&#039;s just who I manage to hang out with or whether there&#039;s an ARC Grant and a PhD in it for someone ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re JG@ 73.  Very.  It&#8217;s very sad how often the class/race thing overlaps, though one odd thing that I have observed is that if there is a dramatic move upwards in socio-economic class in a particular immigrant family, relative to their social position in the old country, it almost always happens in the first or early second generation (ie where the parents immigrate as young adults and haven&#8217;t settled in for very long before the kids arrive) &#8211; if that makes any sense at all to anyone. </p>
<p> I wonder if that&#8217;s just who I manage to hang out with or whether there&#8217;s an ARC Grant and a PhD in it for someone &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: John Greenfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Greenfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 10:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, something very important I should add about the two muggings/bashings by black guys I described above. In the cold light day, I looked at both incidents - and still do - TOTALLY in CLASS terms, not racial terms. 


If that makes sense,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, something very important I should add about the two muggings/bashings by black guys I described above. In the cold light day, I looked at both incidents &#8211; and still do &#8211; TOTALLY in CLASS terms, not racial terms. </p>
<p>If that makes sense,</p>
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		<title>By: skepticlawyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>skepticlawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 09:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Respect my authority!&quot;

Considering the theme of my thesis, I&#039;ve been tempted from time to time to put this classic Cartmanism on the cover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Respect my authority!&#8221;</p>
<p>Considering the theme of my thesis, I&#8217;ve been tempted from time to time to put this classic Cartmanism on the cover.</p>
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