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		<title>By: Legal Eagle</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2009/06/26/new-divide/comment-page-1/#comment-38570</link>
		<dc:creator>Legal Eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 06:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL. Not even I had The Darkness at my wedding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL. Not even I had The Darkness at my wedding.</p>
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		<title>By: Armagny</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2009/06/26/new-divide/comment-page-1/#comment-38556</link>
		<dc:creator>Armagny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SL, you are one of the few bloggers I have communicated with off the &#039;sphere. I cast no aspertions over you, I was just taking the piss... very lightly... not intending harm.... have a collection of LP myself... and warrant...van halen.... we had a darkness song played at our wedding (!!)... kthxby!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SL, you are one of the few bloggers I have communicated with off the &#8216;sphere. I cast no aspertions over you, I was just taking the piss&#8230; very lightly&#8230; not intending harm&#8230;. have a collection of LP myself&#8230; and warrant&#8230;van halen&#8230;. we had a darkness song played at our wedding (!!)&#8230; kthxby!</p>
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		<title>By: skepticlawyer</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2009/06/26/new-divide/comment-page-1/#comment-38022</link>
		<dc:creator>skepticlawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 07:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I guess one of the problems with blogs and e-mail is that tone doesn’t always come across - so sometimes people take things in a different way to which they were intended.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Yet writers -- good ones -- can convey tone merely by the application of black words to the white. Maybe we&#039;re all just horribly unpracticed in the craft.

I suspect this was a case of missing &#039;tone&#039;, although -- to be fair -- I&#039;ve always drawn a sharp distinction between expressing dislike for something &lt;i&gt;per se&lt;/i&gt; and casting aspersions on others because they like that thing one dislikes. It&#039;s the latter I object to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I guess one of the problems with blogs and e-mail is that tone doesn’t always come across &#8211; so sometimes people take things in a different way to which they were intended.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yet writers &#8212; good ones &#8212; can convey tone merely by the application of black words to the white. Maybe we&#8217;re all just horribly unpracticed in the craft.</p>
<p>I suspect this was a case of missing &#8216;tone&#8217;, although &#8212; to be fair &#8212; I&#8217;ve always drawn a sharp distinction between expressing dislike for something <i>per se</i> and casting aspersions on others because they like that thing one dislikes. It&#8217;s the latter I object to.</p>
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		<title>By: Legal Eagle</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2009/06/26/new-divide/comment-page-1/#comment-37985</link>
		<dc:creator>Legal Eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess one of the problems with blogs and e-mail is that tone doesn&#039;t always come across - so sometimes people take things in a different way to which they were intended. 

My fights with friends over the last 10 years have almost all been because I e-mailed something which has been taken in a way other than I intended, or vice versa. I don&#039;t e-mail when I&#039;m angry, upset or annoyed any more as a result. And I respond to e-mails which upset me by calling back to talk about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess one of the problems with blogs and e-mail is that tone doesn&#8217;t always come across &#8211; so sometimes people take things in a different way to which they were intended. </p>
<p>My fights with friends over the last 10 years have almost all been because I e-mailed something which has been taken in a way other than I intended, or vice versa. I don&#8217;t e-mail when I&#8217;m angry, upset or annoyed any more as a result. And I respond to e-mails which upset me by calling back to talk about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Armagny</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2009/06/26/new-divide/comment-page-1/#comment-37915</link>
		<dc:creator>Armagny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 03:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to clarify, as I was a bit defensive in my prev comment- I am genuinely saying sorry for any offence and I won&#039;t bag your music tastes, even in an upbeat tone, in future. Well at least not on your site, anyway =p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to clarify, as I was a bit defensive in my prev comment- I am genuinely saying sorry for any offence and I won&#8217;t bag your music tastes, even in an upbeat tone, in future. Well at least not on your site, anyway =p</p>
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		<title>By: Armagny</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2009/06/26/new-divide/comment-page-1/#comment-37913</link>
		<dc:creator>Armagny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 03:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;/rant over, this one presses my buttons.&quot;

Hmmm, I do think there&#039;s been a slight failure to note obvious signposts to tongue-in-cheek tone and lightheartedness in my comments.

And given Mel said:

&quot;But not Linkin Park, who resemble saccharine dough stamped by a cooky cutter IMO &quot;

it&#039;s simply not the case that he stuck to positives, so geese and ganders for the same treatment please.

Remember this conversation the next time some lefties are getting lampooned for not having a sense of humour- what&#039;s sensitive to one person is innocuous and fair game to another. Anyway, sorry if I caused offence!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;/rant over, this one presses my buttons.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hmmm, I do think there&#8217;s been a slight failure to note obvious signposts to tongue-in-cheek tone and lightheartedness in my comments.</p>
<p>And given Mel said:</p>
<p>&#8220;But not Linkin Park, who resemble saccharine dough stamped by a cooky cutter IMO &#8221;</p>
<p>it&#8217;s simply not the case that he stuck to positives, so geese and ganders for the same treatment please.</p>
<p>Remember this conversation the next time some lefties are getting lampooned for not having a sense of humour- what&#8217;s sensitive to one person is innocuous and fair game to another. Anyway, sorry if I caused offence!</p>
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		<title>By: Adrien</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2009/06/26/new-divide/comment-page-1/#comment-37746</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;if all there is to tell is how shite and/or expensive it is, well, then, forgive me, but what is the point?&lt;/i&gt;
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Had an editor once who wrote a review of Tom Twyker&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Run Lola Run&lt;/i&gt;, said the reason to see it was &#039;cause Twyker got a $10 million, three picture deal outta Miramax. Nothing at all about the film itself.

It&#039;s the way he thought. 

Michael Bay&#039;s just learned that the really basic, totally corny stuff works. Steven taught him everything he knows. Spielberg, the only director who ever lived who could make a film about the Holocaust and end it with a group hug.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>if all there is to tell is how shite and/or expensive it is, well, then, forgive me, but what is the point?</i><br />
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Had an editor once who wrote a review of Tom Twyker&#8217;s <i>Run Lola Run</i>, said the reason to see it was &#8217;cause Twyker got a $10 million, three picture deal outta Miramax. Nothing at all about the film itself.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the way he thought. </p>
<p>Michael Bay&#8217;s just learned that the really basic, totally corny stuff works. Steven taught him everything he knows. Spielberg, the only director who ever lived who could make a film about the Holocaust and end it with a group hug.</p>
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		<title>By: Legal Eagle</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2009/06/26/new-divide/comment-page-1/#comment-37710</link>
		<dc:creator>Legal Eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Posey: &lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t mind bad taste, as long as its defenders can make an interesting story out of it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;d agree entirely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posey:<br />
<blockquote>I don’t mind bad taste, as long as its defenders can make an interesting story out of it.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;d agree entirely.</p>
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		<title>By: DeusExMacintosh</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2009/06/26/new-divide/comment-page-1/#comment-37674</link>
		<dc:creator>DeusExMacintosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s &quot;The Fallen&quot; AJ, with caps. &quot;The Fallen&quot; is the name of a super-duper (read: larger) Decepticon who was never mentioned the entire first movie and who suddenly appears as Megatron&#039;s boss, complete with an unforgiveable Emperor/Vader rip off to make sure you haven&#039;t missed the Star Wars reference.

My musical tastes are reasonably varied and linger mostly around opera and classical music, but last year SL took me to see Linkin Park perform live in London for my birthday and I loved it. Have been listening to them ever since. This was actually revenge on her part because I&#039;d dragged her to see Andreas Scholl (the german baroque countertenor) performing at the Edinburgh International Festival the previous summer.

Some people are such great musicians that you can enjoy them regardless of the style in which they perform. Excellent musicianship will out (as will really freaky vocal work like that of Scholl and Bennington). I think adding a filter of &#039;authenticity&#039; to decide whether we are &lt;b&gt;allowed&lt;/b&gt; to enjoy something or not is utterly bogus. 

(Just don&#039;t start me on the idiots who insist on opera being performed in its original language, regardless of the language of the audience - this is just an excuse for selling subtitling systems. Opera has plot and dialogue, if the audience can&#039;t follow it their appreciation of the work is diminished rather than improved. You may as well sing the whole thing to &#039;la&#039;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s &#8220;The Fallen&#8221; AJ, with caps. &#8220;The Fallen&#8221; is the name of a super-duper (read: larger) Decepticon who was never mentioned the entire first movie and who suddenly appears as Megatron&#8217;s boss, complete with an unforgiveable Emperor/Vader rip off to make sure you haven&#8217;t missed the Star Wars reference.</p>
<p>My musical tastes are reasonably varied and linger mostly around opera and classical music, but last year SL took me to see Linkin Park perform live in London for my birthday and I loved it. Have been listening to them ever since. This was actually revenge on her part because I&#8217;d dragged her to see Andreas Scholl (the german baroque countertenor) performing at the Edinburgh International Festival the previous summer.</p>
<p>Some people are such great musicians that you can enjoy them regardless of the style in which they perform. Excellent musicianship will out (as will really freaky vocal work like that of Scholl and Bennington). I think adding a filter of &#8216;authenticity&#8217; to decide whether we are <b>allowed</b> to enjoy something or not is utterly bogus. </p>
<p>(Just don&#8217;t start me on the idiots who insist on opera being performed in its original language, regardless of the language of the audience &#8211; this is just an excuse for selling subtitling systems. Opera has plot and dialogue, if the audience can&#8217;t follow it their appreciation of the work is diminished rather than improved. You may as well sing the whole thing to &#8216;la&#8217;).</p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
		<link>http://skepticlawyer.com.au/2009/06/26/new-divide/comment-page-1/#comment-37658</link>
		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s definitely the most poorly named squillion dollar blockbuster movie in a while. I know it&#039;s based on a 80s kids cartoon but &quot;Revenge of the Fallen&quot;. Ugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s definitely the most poorly named squillion dollar blockbuster movie in a while. I know it&#8217;s based on a 80s kids cartoon but &#8220;Revenge of the Fallen&#8221;. Ugh.</p>
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